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    Posted: March-11-2018 at 5:18pm
Hey all. I need a replacement spring for a Plymouth 111 mod. 40. Dont have a parts gun. Is there some other source for a spring that will work in this old Red Ryder. Looking for a simple and cheap cure.
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JG Airgun sells a 111 replacement spring for $8.00 plus shipping, part number is DAI111PS Plunger spring. The current Red Ryder plunger assembly is $4.00 plus shipping from Daisy, part number is 169750-000.
 
JG/111

10" OAL

0.695" OD

0.083" wire

30 active coils

Unground closed ends

 
DAISY 1938B RED RYDER

7" OAL

0.710" OD

0.0905" wire

28.5 active coils

Ground closed ends

 

 

 

 

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3" difference in OAL between the two??? 
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Yep. it will have several inches of preload; on the 1938B, 105 Buck, etc. the installed height/length is 6".
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Thanks man.
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I have used a calculator to determine the spring rate of several different springs. What I'm looking forward to seeing is which of the two will be the stronger shooter.

 

Red Ryder current production, bought recently

·        14.222 Lbs/In 

o    43  Lbs/In @ 4” cocked height

o    14.2 @ 6” “installed height”

 

DAI111PS Plunger spring aka “111” spring, from JG Airguns

·        10 lb/in 

o    60 Lbs/In @ 4” cocked height

o    40 @ 6” “installed height”

 

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