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    Posted: July-08-2019 at 2:37am

The 1200 was made between 1977 and 1995. Obviously the number stamped into the left rear of the gun should be used whenever possible, but in cases where the number isn't available like from photos, this can help narrow the date of a particular gun. Also, there were changes made to the number formatting and those changes, along with clues from the gun in question, can be used to determine what the year is.

This is a work in progress, so there are gaps that need to be narrowed down. Feel free to add whatever info you can to help make this more complete.
Additional info on dating Daisy guns: HOW TO TELL WHEN MY GUN WAS MADE- Reg/Lot No. code
 
WHEN DID "LOT NO." CHANGE TO "LOT" (no “NO.”)?
“LOT NO.” used on all from 1977 until 1981 Aug.
1981 Aug. earliest seen with LOT (no “NO.”) H104991
1983 Aug. latest seen with LOT (no “NO.”) H3X4991

WHEN DID "LOT" CHANGE TO JUST THE NUMBER (no “LOT NO.” or “LOT”)?
1985 March earliest seen w/o “LOT” 5C40097

WHEN DID SERRATIONS ON TOP RAIL BEGIN AND END? (more data needed to narrow this down- photos showing the top of guns are scarce)
Serrations began in 1977, seen through at least 1981 April LOT NO. D160488
1992 April 2D10204 has no serrations

WHEN DID PLASTIC BREECH BEGIN? I'm reasonably sure this was also when the rear of the breech changed in appearance to a smooth look as seen below.
1992 April 2D10204 is smooth

 

WHEN DID “U.S. PAT.” BEGIN?
1979 Feb. (has “LOT NO.”) LOT NO. B918615 has no PAT. NO. on right side
1980 June LOT NO. F013131 has PAT NO. on right side

WHEN DID ADJUSTABLE WINDAGE END?
1988 Oct. 8K77457 (no LOT NO. before number) has adjustable windage
1991 Feb 1B10012 no adjustable windage

WHEN DID BB VIEW PORT END?
1979 Aug. LOT NO. H939927 has view port

WHEN DID BILLBOARDS START?
1987 Sept. 7J13601 No Billboards 
1988 Oct. 8K77457 Has billboards both sides

WHEN DID GRIP RETENTION CHANGE FROM BALL & SPRING DETENT?
1988 Sept. 8J09272 has detent on bottom of grip
1992 May 2E12961 no detent bottom of grip

WHEN DID 3 TRIGGER SPRINGS START?
1988 Sept. 8J09272 has 2 trigger springs
1992 April 2C602O2 has 3 trigger springs

WHEN DID PIERCING CUP CHANGE TO SMALL DIAMETER UNIT?

Seems to have happened when the breech was changed to plastic. More data needed.
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Great research. Nice to see this information collected and shared.
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Thanks Mark. My 1st var. 1200 is dated Nov. 1977, by the lot no. Earliest 1200 I have found and I've found a lot of them. They are a favorite of mine. 
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This is my first one, it's 4-81 and a good shooter but it has too many misfires (shots w/o a BB in place). 



This is the one I just got that I need the cup for, it's a '77 like yours. 




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Nice lookers. I had a similar issue with misfires. I emailed you about it. Turned out that the holes in the BB "shuttle" affair were not quite lining up. A couple minutes with the Dremmel solved that problem. The gun is so easy to work on that you can have it apart and back together in 5 minutes. I love the BB window in the early models. You can see the BB drop into the breach. 
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BTW, you are the reason I got a 1200! I also want a CO2 200, I'd prefer to find one that has been leakproofed, like how Jimmie here does it but haven't run across one yet. But the 1200 is a great BB pistol IMHO- accurate with a very good trigger. Add the adjustable sights and that makes it almost ideal. I just miss having true semiauto like the 200.

Same here on the window. After the first gun misfiring I immediately understood the benefits of having it. When I look inside my '81 I'll pay attention to the shuttle alignment, thanks.
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You're welcome on the 1200 refer. Smile
Yeah, the two holes that need to line up are both dependant on friction fits between steel and aluminum tubes..... and both fittings are "hammered" over and over every time you shoot it. I figure one or the other drifts over time. And mine is over 40 years old. 
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