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    Posted: December-04-2022 at 9:20pm
Upon a total disassembly it is evident that someone tried to work on this gun....unsuccessful though. So the gauntlet has been thrown.   Making it work again is just too tempting to resist.   And "yes", I'm planning on replacing the stock. Lol 😆
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From Cobalt327:

You can add the model 98 and models 400, 404, 450 and 454 lever action pellet guns to those, too.[/QUOTE]
Maybe they had dual springs but the stock I was referring to doesn't fit the wide frames. Thanks for the research though.
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Originally posted by teerex.otw teerex.otw wrote:

oops!   that should read 104…NOT 194…I think the 1105 also had something similar
ETA Regarding the dual spring triggers used on guns with the automatic sliding safety... you can add the model 98 and models 400, 404, 450 and 454 lever action pellet guns to those, too.
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Originally posted by teerex.otw teerex.otw wrote:

Russ, What was the second spring used for on the pop guns ?
Up ‘till now the only ones I’m aware of that used two are the early
sliding-safety models with the 2-piece trigger (194 I think…maybe others).

I actually have an all steel trigger with an anti-beartrap. It uses 2 springs.
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Originally posted by twocompassheads twocompassheads wrote:

Russ,  It seems like you have a gun that at one time had a broken stock and the owner replaced it with either an Annie Oakley or an Air Force Rocket Command white stock.  White was probably not the color that they wanted so it got a black paint job.  Is the forearm also white under the paint?  Maybe if you tilt it in the light, you can make out the emblem that was once on it if it wasn't completely removed.  

I believe your assessment is spot on.


 
 
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oops!   that should read 104…NOT 194…I think the 1105 also had something similar
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Russ, What was the second spring used for on the pop guns ?
Up ‘till now the only ones I’m aware of that used two are the early
sliding-safety models with the 2-piece trigger (194 I think…maybe others).
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Maybe this one shows it a little larger.

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Russ,  It seems like you have a gun that at one time had a broken stock and the owner replaced it with either an Annie Oakley or an Air Force Rocket Command white stock.  White was probably not the color that they wanted so it got a black paint job.  Is the forearm also white under the paint?  Maybe if you tilt it in the light, you can make out the emblem that was once on it if it wasn't completely removed.  



 
 
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Here's my deduction of the stock.

Upon disassembly, I discovered 2 springs in the stock.   I've seen this feature on Daisy pop guns but normally only one trigger spring on the BB guns. This gun only has need of one spring for the folded steel trigger. Thus, I surmised that the stock was formerly attached to a pop gun (maybe even an Annie Oakley) and used to replace a deformed/broken original.

So this poor old gun is less than original but what better item to tear into it "guilt free". I might resurrect it or add pieces to my parts stash. 😉 Either way it's one in the "W" column!
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