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    Posted: February-20-2011 at 8:50pm
Hello Everyone,
 
I have an odd one... it's a J.C. Higgins Cactus Carbine (I think).
Close as I can tell, it is much like a Daisy Model 80.
It belonged to my late cousin who was much older than I.
I believe it was purchased at Sears.  Probably from the 50's.
 
It has:
Champagne colored metalic paint (original)
'Blonde' fake woodgrain buttstock and forestock
Aluminum forestock ring
Aluminum lever/stamped steel trigger
There is a welded bracket that is threaded for forestock attachment.
There were some gold decals on the receiver (like fake engraving) but is mostly worn off but parts of it are still visible.
 
To load it, you turn the end of the barrel and open a loading window then close it.
 
The stock has the "Shooters Safety Oath" on it.
 
Anyone know what it is worth?  Hard to find any info on it.
It's in pretty good original shape and shoots very strong.  A little surface rust on the bottom of the barrel (paint is flaking off) and the forestock looks warped.  My cousin apparently put an eye hook in the stock so he could tie a string from the front band to the stock for a home-made sling.  I took the eye hook out (small hole in stock now)
 
Amazingly, the little thing is SPOT-ON accurate.  I can hit a soda can 10/10 at about 30 feet.
(...and the BB's make holes in the can!)
 
I'd sell it if it was worth anything.
Any info or value info would be appreciated!
 
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Oh, and to add to the above description...
 
I forgot to say that both stocks are PLASTIC.
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Hey doublemeat
Check the rifle real good for a model number.Most of the Sears rifle model numbers started with 799.The rifle dosen't sound like a Cactus Carbine.I think the eye hook came with the rifle as Daisy used them alot.The J.C Higgins Cactus Carbines and the Westerners came with painted black frames and either black or brown plastic forarms and stocks. According to Garys book,Encyclopedia of Daisy Guns,there were three models of the Cactus carbine and one of the Westerner
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Thanks Steve.
 
Yes, there is a model number, I should have included it in the original post
but was too lazy to run down and get it from the basement.
 
Model No. 799.19200
J.C. Higgins AIR RIFLE
REG. No.G774157  PAT No. 2,758,586
 
I guess the color of the paint is more of a metalic brown than a metalic champagne.
It looks different in sunlight vs. flouresent light.
 
It also has some scroll work and 3 stars on the lever cast right in.
 
Am I correct that it is like a Daisy Model 80?
What is it worth?
 
Glad I saved that screw in eye hook~!
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I will try to amplify Steve's comments, but it would be nice to know if your gun was made in Plymouth, Michigan or Rogers, Arkansas.  I suspect that it is a Rogers, Ark gun because it has a  Registration Number; the J. C. Higgins Cactus Carbines mfg at Plymouth do not have Registration Numbers.  If made in Rogers, Ark then your gun dates after April, 1958, and it sounds like it resembles a Daisy Model 111.
 
I have 3 J. C. Higgins Cactus Carbines; one is a Model 799-2029, the other 2 are Model 799-2030, but the -2030s are of two different variations, with one having 2 patent numbers and the other has four, and both indicate 'other patents applied for.' so you can see what you are up against in trying to track that baby down, however your Register Number will be a saving grace.
 
The -2029 has a V-notched screw adj rear sight and the front sight is the low profile style; the -2030's have the combination peep & V-notched flip rear sight, and they have the fake silver hammers on the stock, with ramp style front sight blade.  The markings on the cocking lever seem identical to what I have. ie., 3 stars within fancy scroll work.
 
As an aside, one of the Model 799-2030s was customized by being painted a beautiful gray, it was used as a display model in a Daisy Nuts store front.  I don't shoot this one but once or twice a year, it's too prettyConfused.
 
I looked in the Blue Book of Airguns, 8th  Edition, 2010, in the store brand cross-over list which references 'private label' stuff back to Daisy models but your model number isn't listed, but neither are mine.
 
Depending on condition, your gun might be valued between $15 and $35; private label Daisy air guns do not seem to have vintage value compared to Daisy labled guns.
 
Abnd yes, these models are a lot of fun to shoot because they are accurate and hard hitting, and you could do as well at 40 feet.  So why not keep that gem?  Become a Daisy Nut!!!
 
Good luck.
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Hey doublemeat
Look at the model number again,you might need a mag glass.The numbers don't seem to be right
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Hey Doublemeat

If you can send me a picture to  mmclark2@tds.net  I can tell you alot more if I had a picture
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Steve,

Dont need a magnifying glass... text in the stampings is clear as newspaper print.
I double checked the info on mine and the numbers from the prior post are spot on correct.
 
Anyway, here is one just like it.  My stocks are faded, perhaps, to a lighter color.
If what this guy says is true, it came from Sears, is from the late 60's and it sold for $35.
Therefore, my original question of "what's it worth" apparently is about $35.00
 
Check this link in lieu of me sending photos.  Mine is exactly like this but stocks are faded.
The one in the auction has an "F" serial number, and mine has a "G".
 
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Steve & Willie,

Thanks for all the help!  Still not sure what model it is though...
Is it considered a "Cactus Carbine"?
 
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I think it could easily be classified as a Cactus Carbine due to the silk screen image of the crouched cowboy w/carbine; it definitely looks like a Daisy Model 111.  These are sturdy little BB guns and as you have discovered, fun to shoot.
 
 
I feel comfortable with the dollar valuatrion that I renderedWink  but what I would like to know next is where was the gun manufactured; I couldn't see anything on the AuctionArmsk web page on the 'sample' you gave us; that was a smart looking specimen and the buyer got a good deal as did the seller.Clap
 
Dave Albert and Gary Garber wrote a desertation on Daisy Gun Regisgter and Lot Numbers, but I have not been able to put it to any practical use because it totally confuses me.  The only area where I think I kinow what I am talking about is the designation of the months of manufacture which was adopted effective November 1,  1972, but the original regisster numbering system began November, 1952
 
 You would have to really dedicate yourself to long kterm stuidying in order to understand the various numbering schemes that Daisy used over the years.
 
 I will hazard a guess and say that your gun was mfg July, 1967 or 1977Confused but that is very highly speculative.Ouch
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