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    Posted: June-03-2023 at 9:40am
I disassembled my Model 140 Defender and found that the main spring is no longer straight and viable.  I am looking for a replacement spring for it, hopefully from a similar gun like a 40, 140, 141 or 142.  The spring is approximately 7 1/2 inches long and approximately 3/4 inch in diameter.  Any help would be appreciated.  

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Steve, is the spring copper washed? If you can measure the wire diameter in thousandths of an inch, as well as count how many coils the spring has, I can tell you if there's a modern spring that will work as a replacement.

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It does not appear to be copper washed to me.  It has 26 coils depending on how you count the end coils. I do not have a micrometer or know anyone who does.  The overall diameter of the spring is approx 3/4 inch.  The coil appears a hair larger than 1/16 inch.  This is the best I can come up with.  Thanks Mark!

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Steve, it's probably the same spring they used in the early No. 111 Model 40 guns. I am basing this on your coil count and the length. Your spring does measure somewhat less than a good 111-40 spring, but I believe the spring has sacked over time and lost some of the overall length it would have had when new. Sometimes you can tell if the spring has sacked by the coil spacing being uneven. Uneven coils are usually seen more on the coils towards each end than in the the middle.

Anyway, I just sent you an email. 

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My model 140 has the same issue. Having it repaired by Dwayne
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Iceman, since I like springs I may as well throw in my two pennies. If you are trying to restore as original the gun, then all dimensions are important. If simple function is the goal then a spring of approximate size is adequate. If high performance is the aim then tension along with size, matter. In any case, avoiding excess friction by using a straight spring vs a distorted one should be of primary concern. I suppose what I'm trying to say is, weigh the options and get that old sweetheart spitting BBs once again!   Good luck.   Russ
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Thanks Russ!  I always appreciate input from everyone in this forum.  I have resolved my issue and it is working as it should. 

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Originally posted by Iceman Iceman wrote:

Thanks Russ!  I always appreciate input from everyone in this forum.  I have resolved my issue and it is working as it should. 

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ATTA' BOY, ICE!! Another Daisy back in service. We always love a good success story.
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