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oneandgone ![]() Red Ryder Member ![]() ![]() Joined: August-29-2011 Location: Central IL Points: 361 |
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Intersting. Good work, thanks!
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stevec ![]() Red Ryder Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September-22-2003 Points: 1380 |
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Now I gotta go find a Model 1938 A ,LOL
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daisyhunter ![]() Red Ryder Member ![]() Joined: April-28-2007 Location: United States Points: 139 |
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Hi Guys You seem to understand Daisy's 1938 Red Ryder marking system. I have a Daisy NO. 1938 It has the lighting loading door , phillip screws ,Saddle ring staple does not go completely
through side of receiver. Logo is on Right side of stock Where does this one fit in the system.
Gary
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oneandgone ![]() Red Ryder Member ![]() ![]() Joined: August-29-2011 Location: Central IL Points: 361 |
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I'm with ya on that Steve!
Gary, sounds like this one...
Model 1938 (Mfg. 1978) - BB/.175 cal., Red Ryder similar to Model 1938 but with logo on right side of stock, screws are Phillips type. Mfg. 1978. |
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stevec ![]() Red Ryder Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September-22-2003 Points: 1380 |
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The No 1938 was made from about 1972-78.Oneandgone,you gotta read slowerThere was no model 1938 but No 1938 LOL
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oneandgone ![]() Red Ryder Member ![]() ![]() Joined: August-29-2011 Location: Central IL Points: 361 |
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Wouldn't it be Model: No. 1938? That's what I thought was going on...
Also, according to the Blue Book (which I know we both agree has mistakes) the phillips screws and logo on right side of stock vs left indicates 1978 only. To me it seems like it should be called a 1938 variant 2. Opinion? Correction?
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theruppester ![]() Newbie ![]() ![]() Joined: October-11-2011 Points: 2 |
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The 1938 Daisy came out in 1972. It was a copy of the 1949 111-40 Red Rider. It had a wooden stock and a wooden forearm with a metal band around it. The Stock had the Red Rider logo on the left side but did not have the Fred Harmon signature. The designation on the gun was No. 1938 although they were called it a Model 1938. These guns were made until 1979. Some time during the production the logo was moved to the right side of the stock. I do not know when but I have two No.1938s and I have one of each. Both guns are original. Some time in 1979 or 1980 A slot was added to the top of the barrel as a safety so you could see if a BB was in the loading tube. This was called a Model 1938A. the designation on the gun remained No.1938. I also have one of these. This gun was only made for one year. The next change was to add a safety to the trigger a loading door in the barrel drop the removable shot tube and replace it with a fixed shot tube and a plastic insert and sight in the end of the barrel. This is the Model 1938B. This is the same gun they make today except for the decline in the quality. The production dates came from an article at DaisyKing.com.
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theruppester ![]() Newbie ![]() ![]() Joined: October-11-2011 Points: 2 |
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I checked the screws on the guns that I have The gun with the logo on the left side has straight slot screws. the one with the logo on the right and the 38A have Phillips head screws.hope this helps some.
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oneandgone ![]() Red Ryder Member ![]() ![]() Joined: August-29-2011 Location: Central IL Points: 361 |
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Great info, thank you. That all makes sense to me and I can't believe I haven't read it as I've been on that site several times. In my opinion these should be referred to as variants of the 1938 the same way as is done with the No 111 Model 40.
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stevec ![]() Red Ryder Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September-22-2003 Points: 1380 |
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The No 1938 with the slot cut into the barrel was still just called a No 1938.The model 1938 A is when they redisgned the rifle and added a safety to it.The safety had problems with it and when you sent it in for repair they stenciled model 1938b on the side.I don't have a model 1938 A but have the others.If you look on the net at rifles sold that were model 1938a you will see it is just like the model 1938b.There was not a No1938a
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