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Wow Rick, that's quite a group, spanning Plymouth and Rodgers.   I wish I could identify at least one more 102-36 with the Air Force blue paint and hopefully some indication of the type of stock it was paired with. Starting to think this may have been a one off. 🤔 Maybe a bored Daisy worker taking liberty with his/her lunch break. Now THAT really would be interesting!
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Rogers models 102 and 102 36 info.
All have oil holes.
102 36. Register No J360965. Wood Stock with clear coat
102.      Register No None shown. Painted metal and plastic stock
102.      Daisy Heddon. Rogers Arkansas Division Victor Comptometer Corporation 
             Pat. No. 2.758.586 Register No. K685781 Wood Stock clear coat
102 36.  Daisy Rogers Arkansas
             Register No I898638. Wood painted brown stock look’s original 
             Still has Daisy sticker on the barrel

All the other 102 and 102 36 models are Plymouth models.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Rick Cates Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May-14-2023 at 12:29pm
I will work on the Rogers info later today.
I also have a number of older 102 36 models with nickel and blue models.
If you want to log the older models I can also gather that info.
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Yes, please do include the Rogers info, and thanks!

It should be possible to pin down the changeover from 102-36 to 102 closer than 1968. 

The latest 102-36 I have documented is REG. NO. J546969 stamped 4-6-67.
The earliest 102 I have documented (going my the letter prefix) is REG. NO. K281736, and is stamped Heddon/Victor Comptometer Corp. I'll ask Joe for the date on it to get a start on this.....

It may turn out that there were 102s and 102-36s being made at the same time...


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I do have another 102 36 in my collection from Plymouth with no oil hole.
Register NoA372830
It is about the same shape as my new purchase except the stock does have a slight bow.
If you are interested in logging the Rogers 102 36 models in the data base I have few of those also.
I mostly collect the Plymouth Daisy’s, however I just can not pass on any old Daisy if it is in nice shape.
Just let me know and I can post the Rogers info here.
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Thanks Rick, I added it to the list above. Great find- an early one for sure!
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I was in an Antique Mall today with the wife and came across a very nice No 102 Model 36.
No rust and very little wear.
Plymouth Mich.
No oil hole.
Register No A968379
Plastic stock without any bowing or curvature.
I am its new owner.
Just thought I would share how it has the plastic stock and its register number which I am sure it came that way from Daisy.
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Originally posted by cobalt327 cobalt327 wrote:

Thanks, I'll add that to the database.


For what it's worth, when I asked Joe when the 102-36 became just the 102, he said he wasn't sure. Apparently the production records didn't delineate the change. So going by date requests he received where the owner stated that the gun was a 102-36, he matched the REG. NO.s to dates as late as "from 1967 and 1968".

These are all the dates I have on the 102-36. If anyone has any they'd like to add, I'd appreciate it!

<p ="msonormal"="">102-36 REG. NO. A263387, Ply. no oil hole was stamped 11-11-1954<o:p></o:p>



<p ="msonormal"="">102-36 REG. NO.s C722328 to C723828 was stamped 9-3-57<o:p></o:p>



<p ="msonormal"="">102-36 REG. NO. D041985, Ply. w/oil hole was stamped 1st
quarter of 1958<o:p></o:p>



<p ="msonormal"="">102-36 REG. NO. D132426 Ply. bronze w/gold
lever was stamped 3-18-58<o:p></o:p>



<p ="msonormal"="">102-36 REG. NO. G896447 (thanks to airitis @ DT) was stamped
2-16-61 <o:p></o:p>



<p ="msoer"="">102-36 REG. NO.s I210480 to I217125 was
stamped 9-27-64<o:p></o:p>



<p ="msonormal"="">102-36 REG. NO. J546969 was stamped 4-6-67<o:p></o:p>






Good compilation Mark. And a nod to Joe also.
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Thanks, I'll add that to the database.

For what it's worth, when I asked Joe when the 102-36 became just the 102, he said he wasn't sure. Apparently the production records didn't delineate the change. So going by date requests he received where the owner stated that the gun was a 102-36, he matched the REG. NO.s to dates as late as "from 1967 and 1968".

These are all the dates I have on the 102-36. If anyone has any they'd like to add, I'd appreciate it!

102-36 REG. NO. A263387, Ply. no oil hole, stamped 11-11-1954

102-36 REG. NO. A968379, Ply. no oil hole, (thanks to Rick Cates @ DT)

102-36 REG. NO.s C722328 to C723828 stamped 9-3-57

102-36 REG. NO. D041985, Ply. w/oil hole, stamped 1st quarter of 1958

102-36 REG. NO. D132426 Ply. bronze w/gold lever, stamped 3-18-58

102-36 REG. NO. D272908 Rogers, bronze w/gold lever, stamped 11-11-58 

102-36 REG. NO. G896447 (thanks to airitis @ DT), stamped 2-16-61

102-36 REG. NO.s I210480 to I217125, stamped 9-27-64

102-36 REG. NO. J546969, stamped 4-6-67


Edited to add: This is what Joe wrote about the Model 102 in 12-10-21...

"The 102 has a long history in the Daisy product line. The No. 102 was first made from 1933 to 1935 as the No. 102, Model 33. It was a 500-shot gun with wood stock and nickel finish.

"In 1936 it became the No. 102 Model 36 and maintained the nickel finish until 1942. It was nickel plated from 1936 to 1942. In 1942, when the use of nickel was prohibited (due to WWII), the gun was made with a blued finish. Production of the blued gun resumed after WWII, from 1945 to 1958 in Plymouth (then from 1958 to 1978 in Rogers, AR.)

"In 1952 it was still blued but was only a 350-shot gun. Guns made after 1952 have a Register No. stamped on top of the frame. (By the way, the No. 102 is the fore-runner of the Model 105B which is a youth gun, marketed as the Buck today.)"



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Originally posted by cobalt327 cobalt327 wrote:

Per Joe Murfin, '54 and newer had plastic. By the way, what is the Reg/Lot No.?

Plastic stock seems probable since Joe's associate dated the gun as February 16, 1961.
Register number is G 896447.
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