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Mark, just so you don't think I've been holding back: I finally had a chance to sort through some of the stash and found a few you might be able to enter into the base.
All Rodgers guns. All with black paint.

102-36
REGISTER NO. F679296
Plastic stock

102-36
REGISTER NO. K486102
Plastic stock

102
LOT NO. J509933
Plastic stock

102
(Not designated as Reg or Lot)
No. L219695
Wood stock

HEDDON VICTOR COMPTOMETER
102
REG. NO. L223201
Wood stock

HEDDON VICTOR COMPTOMETER
102
REG. NO. L279287
Wood stock

I also have a couple model 101 Plymouth guns but I think that takes us into a different category. I hope this helps with the database. Russ.

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I found one more.

102-36
REGISTER NO. C 070113
Plastic stock.
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Mark,
Understanding that there were changes in stocks, levers, and the change from leather to rubber, what, if any, difference is there between the 102 and the 102-36 ?

I only have 2 of these, both are 102’s (not-36), both are from Rogers. I’m including info just incase it’s of any use to you.

One is marked Daisy Heddon Victor Comptometer
Reg. M140953 on top of receiver
plastic stock

The other is just marked Daisy
Lot F800090 under barrel
wood stock
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As far as I know, the Rogers guns were all about the same internally. Through the years Daisy spring specs differed some as far as the exact number of coils, lengths and wire diameters but not by much and the spring rates were all very close. I don't know if Daisy ever manufactured springs but if they contracted for them that could explain the slight differences because there's more than one way to make a spring with a 14 lb-in rate for instance.

Getting back into the Plymouth days, there were more internal differences- they shot harder, and had decidedly stronger springs. Back before they were stamping them with Reg. No.s they had a strong spring and leather seals, One gun that was shown at The High Road thread used a spacer and a short, stiff spring. I don't know if that was how it came from the factory, though. I'll post it below. It came from a nickeled 102-36 w/o numbers:

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Just a fine point to notice. Some were stamped "LOT NO." Some "REG NO." And some "REGISTER NO."
I don't know which years involved these but I noticed this on the Rodgers guns.
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Interesting !
The first thing i noticed was the low-pivot lever, was the 102-36 produced in both the low and high pivot types ?
Also, that spring looks suspiciously similar to an old model 25…I wonder if there’s any chance.

Anyway, thanks for posting the pic. These older models are extremely rare in this part of the country and it’s cool to see stuff I’ll probably never see in person !
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Originally posted by Airitis Airitis wrote:

I found one more.

102-36
REGISTER NO. C 070113
Plastic stock.
Thanks, Russ- you have quite a collection of them!
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Aaaand, I found TWO more!

Low pivot Plymouth gun.
Number102 model 36
I believe variation 5 from 1953
REGISTER NO. 214767
Wood stock

RODGERS GUN. High pivot
Model 102
REG. NO. L431020
Wood stock

I think that is all I own.....so far.
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Originally posted by teerex.otw teerex.otw wrote:

Interesting !
The first thing i noticed was the low-pivot lever, was the 102-36 produced in both the low and high pivot types ?
Also, that spring looks suspiciously similar to an old model 25…I wonder if there’s any chance.

Anyway, thanks for posting the pic. These older models are extremely rare in this part of the country and it’s cool to see stuff I’ll probably never see in person !
Like you suspected- there were both high and low pivot 102-36 guns made. Off the top of my head, I can't think of another Daisy besides the 102-36 that kept their model numbers through the transition from low to high pivot levers. 


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