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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Gumslinger Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April-02-2019 at 9:19pm
I just want to give BSA guy and Cobalt a thank you for your help earlier. I hope this information helps the community.
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Here is a shot of one of my warped 97's. I think this one is the worst.
Interesting that with all the bend in the stock the seams are still tightly joined.
Just amazing it could move that much without cracking or separating.



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That's a crazy set of photos, Bavaria55n.  Good for shooting around corners!
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I just received a ca. 1957 Plymouth made Model 94 Red Ryder that has an MPC branded stock similar to the earlier warped stock, except mine is fortunately arrow-straight. Strange how some warped so badly while others are unscathed. I'll post photos later.

On an unrelated note, anyone remember someone here who was looking for a wide frame plastic trigger module for (IIRC) a model 95B?
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Congrats on your unwarped Model 94, Cobalt.  It has found a good home.
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Thanks, it came to me not shooting but it's just the barrel seal riding the air tube back and forth. Common problem- I have three others in queue w/the exact same thing needing done.

About our earlier conversation, the name was screwnutdeal, found it yesterday. They don't show them anymore, though.
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 Gumslinger, thanks for the research on plastic, it pretty much covered the plastic downfall used on early Daisy's. Daisy finally got it right a little too late. I have never bought a plastic stocked Daisy, there is  something about wood that makes it my choice.

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Yes, thank you Gumslinger for sharing your research and knowledge on plastics used back in the day.  It certainly provides us with some answers to questions I am sure we all have had!
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Last year I was befuddled by Daisy’s plastic parts. Now, I think I can close the thread.

MPC stands for Modern Plastics Corporation. Mucho thanks to the fine people at Argus camera museum. This led me (round-about) to the book “It’s A Daisy” by Cass Hough. Mr. Hough began at Daisy in 1926, and was president upon his retirement in 1972.

He dedicated 5 pages (pg. 247-251) to the trials & tribulations of swapping wood to plastic. He relates that problems between this change, and also the switch from leather-to-neoprene seals, “nearly drove him to his knees”.

 He had been approached in 1948 by a representative of MPC (Benton Harbor, MI). A solid company, which assured Daisy that plastic was the answer. By then the price of wood itself, the transport, the year-long storing, kiln-drying, milling, and finishing (including wood burning of logos) was skyrocketing. It was becoming too expensive to the consumer cost of a BB gun. Using plastic, said the representative, would solve all that. Initially, Daisy began with one model: the Red Ryder. But problems began.

First, there was great reluctance of retail outlets to buying any ‘gun’ without a real wood stock. The plastic parts also warped in storefront window heat, and the colors were unrealistic. The first plastics were also too thin, and cracked if dropped on the ground--especially when cold. But the savings would be huge, so they pressed on, trying new processes, and new formulations.

They finally got it right (more or less IMHO) and convinced retailers that plastic was here to stay. When Daisy moved to Rogers, they found themselves far from their ‘around the corner’ access to various materials--such that they had enjoyed in industrial Michigan. So in the case of plastic stocks, Daisy set up their own injection-molding department and continued this all in-house. They also kept experimenting, until they were satisfied with the quality of their own processed plastic stocks, and then expanded their use to many different models. And they never looked back.

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