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    Posted: January-03-2014 at 6:27am
I have a Daisy Poweline 777 air gun and understand that a 10 m world champion used a Daisy 717 to win a state championship some years ago.  Are these both target pistols and what are the differences between them?  (From an embarrassed newbie)  Thanks.
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According to the Bluebook of Airguns (May 2012), the 777 is designated as a 'Target' pistol, and was made between 1990-1997.  It has a Lothar rifled barrel, and is stated at 360fps.  It is listed as being worth $250 in 100% condition.
 
The 717 is an earlier model, but I don't see a listing for the year(s) made.  It is not designated as a 'Target' pistol.  It just says rifled steel barrel.  It is stated at 432fps.  It is listed as being worth $215 in 100% condition.
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I am a big fan of the D 7XX guns. About 35 years ago Daisy decided to build a pneumatic pistol that could actually hit what someone aimed at. That was the 717. A relatively cheap .177 pellet pistol with a decent rifled barrel. Turns out some competitors of limited means were actually doing quite well in target competitions against pistols costing ten times as much. Daisy took notice and contracted with Lothar to have a barrel made and the 747 came along. Then, in the 90's, Daisy decided to come out with a variant that had a nice set of walnut grips....the 777. Both the 717 and the 747 are still in production. And I don't want to forget the .22 cal. variant... the 722.  My wife and I have a shooting pair of 717's and 722's. Lots of fun to plink with them. Very accurate. I also have a 747. I'm not good enough to notice the difference a Lothar barrel makes. :(
 I'm sure it does make a difference to someone who is a match grade shooter. The 777 has a Lothar barrel, of course. The lothar barrel and the grips are the only difference between them. I highly recommend any of them. Hope this helps.
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Thanks.  It helps a lot !

After a decade of local combat pistol shooting, I came across an NRA Instructor who'd qualify me as an NRA pistol instructor.  He liked the Daisy target pellet guns and suggested the 777.  It seemed like a bargain for a quality air gun though I didn't know any one of them from another.  In fact, I recall that I'd earlier had another single shot pneumatic pistol for a while - a Fierwerkbau (sp?) that was far from their top of the line model.  It'd been pretty shop-worn and continuously produced a string of vertical hits below six o'clock.  I was just about a good enough shooter to recognize that the gun wasn't holding its air long enough before I shot.  The gun shop saw my targets and agreed to refund.  The Daisy was recommended a year or so later and I grabbed it right away.  But I haven't respected it because of the old BB gun associations and because the target grip is overly large and cumbersome.  My instructor-teacher told me it had a "Walther" barrel, which meant it had to have been designed for serious accuracy.  The trigger is crisp and, for reasons I can't understand, the gun seems to be very accurate and consisten after a little more than 20 years of sitting around.  I doubt that I have 1,500 pellets through it.  I haven't done any maintenance beyond shooting some felt pellets through the barrel - which come through clean. 

I'll get into the instructions to see what else I should be doing.  I'm going to work a bit at bullseye now that I'm retired, and some home practice will be a help.  It looks like I've already found the place to ask questions that might come up as I'm able to progress a little bit. 
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The 7XX power plant is fairly simple in design and pretty easy to work on should you need to reseal it. Sitting for 20 years is a long time for a pneumatic gun of any type. I'd consider resealing it if I wanted to compete with it. On the other hand, if it aint broke....dont fix it. Do a chrony test on it and see how consistent she really is. She should be shooting a consistent 370 fps....+ or - a couple fps. If you don't have a chrony you want to get one. Especially if you are a competitive shooter. You can pick up a decent used one for $75 or so. A drop or two of ATF or 30 weight NON detergent oil behind the pump head should be done every few hundred shots or so. Keeps the seals happy. I'm no competitive shooter and I can shoot dime sized groups with our 717's....at rest. Good luck. Here is a link that will help with understanding the inards of you gun.
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Both the 747 and 777 have the lothar barrel! The 717 does not.
 
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