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Red Ryder Furnature Upgrades

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Topic: Red Ryder Furnature Upgrades
Posted By: redryder fan
Subject: Red Ryder Furnature Upgrades
Date Posted: April-09-2018 at 4:51pm
I designed and 3D printed these Red Ryder parts to make the airgun look a bit more modern.
Thinking about molding and selling them.
Anyone interested?
Thanks!





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Posted By: cobalt327
Date Posted: April-09-2018 at 9:18pm
I am, just as long as the buttstock LOP is at least 14 inches.


Posted By: Airitis
Date Posted: April-10-2018 at 7:52am
I'm wondering, did you 3D the cocking lever also or is that a different medium? I know there are different densities of plastics available for the printers.

I like the look of that design.

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Posted By: BurghDude
Date Posted: April-12-2018 at 9:29pm
Now that would be an interesting project.. "heating up" a RR using Cobalt's instructions, and "dressing up" that same gun with new furniture Smile  But, $50 for the furniture is a little too steep for me!  Very nice work and design, though!



Posted By: cobalt327
Date Posted: April-12-2018 at 9:43pm
BD, wondering where you heard the price?
 
I agree it would be hard to justify for many but I'd imagine there's not a whole lot of profit in selling the entire set for $50.00... but it sure would make for a unique gun. I hope he comes back w/some more details on materials. The durability of the lever is of particular interest to me, seeing as how my guns do have more cocking effort than a stocker. It's nothing the factory levers cannot handle, but to be honest, the Daisy levers- even the plastic ones- have held up to my modifications w/o complaint, with one exception and that was a gun I had totally maxed out the preload on and plus was using a heavier rate spring from a Crosman/Sheridan Cowboy.
 
That gun made 350 fps w/a 3/32" ID air tube (way too small in other words, w/the right air tube it would have been good for 400-plus fps), but it was decidedly unhappy at that state of tune. What ended the experiment was actually the trigger failing to reset but the plastic lever did wear more than I would have liked..


Posted By: BurghDude
Date Posted: April-13-2018 at 8:05am
Hey Cobalt.  On the bottom of his picture is his website:  www.tgwms.com  You can see a couple of other RR designs there as well.  I'd have been interested in the material for the cocking lever as well!  I have one of the big loop ChiefAJ levers and enjoy it.  I like this new design even better, but have the same concern about strength and reliability. 

Some time when I have time I intend to bore out the airtube on my play RR.  Your thread on RR mod was great!  Thank you for sharing that journey!




Posted By: Airitis
Date Posted: April-13-2018 at 11:20am
Burgh Dude, On one of my trips to 'Da Burgh" we should get together and talk Daisy's over a beverage.

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Posted By: oldwizzer
Date Posted: April-13-2018 at 11:38am
Looks great, but for us old guys nothing beats the beauty of the original Red Ryder design!
But then again" the world it is a changing," room for every body. It's nice to see the number of 
new members on this forum Daisy Talk.

Ejwills.


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Posted By: bangpla
Date Posted: April-13-2018 at 12:13pm

I agree, I want only the original Red Ryder design, I would have no interest or desire to modify the gun.

I have several Red Ryder guns, including the first model copper bands, and transition guns as well as other Daisy guns in my collection. 

The more original the better for me. 

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Posted By: cobalt327
Date Posted: April-13-2018 at 2:42pm
For me, the old Daisy Red Ryders, as well as any of the old classics, I wouldn't alter. No need to fix what's not broken. However the Chinese guns will never be in the same league as the true classics- and I have zero compunction about altering them to the moon.


Posted By: cobalt327
Date Posted: April-13-2018 at 2:55pm
Originally posted by BurghDude BurghDude wrote:

Hey Cobalt.  On the bottom of his picture is his website:  www.tgwms.com  You can see a couple of other RR designs there as well.  I'd have been interested in the material for the cocking lever as well!  I have one of the big loop ChiefAJ levers and enjoy it.  I like this new design even better, but have the same concern about strength and reliability. 

Some time when I have time I intend to bore out the airtube on my play RR.  Your thread on RR mod was great!  Thank you for sharing that journey!


Thanks, I'll check out his website! And thank you for the words of support- we had a lot of fun and I know I learned a ton about these guns as well as broke some ground that had been previously unturned. Not bragging- there were a lot of folks involved in that thread, not just me by any means- but that thread still gets north of 75 views a day and has more total views (49K as of today) than any other thread I'm aware of in the airgun category. That tells me that I wasn't alone in wanting to understand what makes a Daisy lever BB gun tick along with how to tweak them.
 
ETA- Was just at http://www.tgwms.com" rel="nofollow - www.tgwms.com  to have a look-see and I'm glad there are several different kits being offered. Too bad the $25 set doesn't come with the cheek riser but maybe $omething can be worked out to make that happen.
 
I'm going to ask a couple questions but I'm pretty sure I'll be making an order.


Posted By: Bavaria55n
Date Posted: April-13-2018 at 5:02pm
Yes, lots of people would like a longer length of pull and that looks like it would do the trick and it comes in 4 different colors.
Gary


Posted By: BurghDude
Date Posted: April-13-2018 at 5:16pm
Airitis, I live out near the Greater PGH Airport.. and I'd be happy to meet :)  

And Cobalt, I couldn't agree more about the new Chinese guns being fair game!  I wouldn't dream of messing with my 111-40s, but modern RRs are cheap and plentiful.




Posted By: cobalt327
Date Posted: April-13-2018 at 5:27pm



Posted By: Dannop2
Date Posted: April-13-2018 at 8:06pm
Hi all , just checked the web site , very nice one for sure , may have to save up my Pennies for some custom additions and I have an extra unfired  RR  , be nice to have some extra LOP , I have the Chief A.J. and lever but always looking for something outside the box and it's nice to see someone  who thinks outside of the box too .

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Posted By: Airitis
Date Posted: April-14-2018 at 3:02pm
BurghDude, Reach me through my email address from my profile.

Yinz guys are right. The new guns are fun to mess with 'cause the investment is low amd there's plenty of 'em to be had.

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Posted By: oneandgone
Date Posted: April-15-2018 at 11:21pm
I'd actually be really interested in a Cobalt hot rodded RR with this furniture.

Oohhh I just noticed they are available in Desert Tan and OD Green too! 


Posted By: cobalt327
Date Posted: April-16-2018 at 11:20pm
Originally posted by oneandgone oneandgone wrote:

I'd actually be really interested in a Cobalt hot rodded RR with this furniture.

Oohhh I just noticed they are available in Desert Tan and OD Green too! 
Well, if there's anything I can do from my end to make that happen, just let me know.
 
 
ETA, a heads-up about contacting Trevor- I tried to contact him by using his site's contact page but didn't hear anything back, so earlier today I emailed him directly ( mailto:T@TGWMS.com" rel="nofollow -


Posted By: oneandgone
Date Posted: April-17-2018 at 11:03pm
I have your email address and probably phone number around here somewhere. I'll get in touch for the details. If you felt like picking up a new RR and rodding it out I'd gladly pay you for your trouble to do it and to send it my way. Time is valuable and I'm more than happy to compensate you for your troubles. I can pick up the kit from Trevor and add that later on or if you want you can do that as well. I'm flexible. If you're too busy or not interested I totally understand. Please don't let me put you on the spot. Lastly, I'd pay up front so you're not out any cash while you do it. 


Posted By: cobalt327
Date Posted: April-18-2018 at 4:38am
I'm sure we can work something out. Get in touch when you feel like it, but I would suggest to not buy a gun and ship it to me- much cheaper for me to pick one up here, then there will be just shipping one way. Odd that I don't see the RR online at WM, but they usually have them on the shelf.
 
When I communicated w/Trevor re the furniture, the deal is that he's gaging interest before committing to a production run, and obviously that makes sense. The parts shown are 3D printed prototypes (ain't technology great?) and from what I gathered final details like removable or permanent stock cheek riser and I'm sure other things aren't yet finalized (I voted for a removable/replaceable cheek riser and he's also leaning that way I believe). I mentioned two other forums where he could ask about interest in the parts. So I'm hoping that there will be a run of the parts but it could be a ways down the road. 
 
He said the lever will be made of glass filled nylon and it would be able to handle the added cocking effort from the spring preload. I estimated it to him to be 30% more than unmodded.


Posted By: oneandgone
Date Posted: April-20-2018 at 9:44pm
I agree, no point to send one back and forth. I guess if he doesn't go through with production the Chief AJ stuff is still an option. I'd rather had what Trevor has come up with though.


Posted By: cobalt327
Date Posted: April-21-2018 at 1:34am
I'd like to try a set, too, minus the flash suppressor. Wink  I like the Chief aj stock I have, but it did take quite a bit of fiddling to get the holes positioned correctly so the lever fit the stock inlet. I posted about this already at THR so I won't rehash it here, but suffice to say the stock I got was not 'plug and play'. Personally I don't care for Chief aj's big hoop lever but that's a personal preference thing.


Posted By: oneandgone
Date Posted: April-21-2018 at 7:30pm
Yea, the lever doesn't do much for me either. I've never used it, but appearance wise I'm fine with the plain one. Too bad the stock doesn't fit better. I wonder how it is with the plain lever...


Posted By: cobalt327
Date Posted: April-21-2018 at 7:51pm
I use the factory curved lever and that's what didn't fit well. But FWIW I also read a review of the aj stock/hoop lever combo that said they weren't too happy w/the fit of the hoop lever to the stock, either. Others have reported no problems so it may have been a run of out of spec stocks. It also could be that I'm overly anal about such things- it's not like the stock as delivered would have prevented me from using the gun w/it installed, at least as long as I was careful closing the lever else the lever could hit the trigger causing the gun to shoot! So instead having it bother me every time I shot the gun (which is daily, weather permitted), I went ahead and plugged the old holes w/dowels glued in place then relocated the holes correctly so things fit- and looked- right.
 

AS RECEIVED

 

NEW HOLE DRILLED

 

FINISHED



Posted By: oneandgone
Date Posted: April-21-2018 at 11:00pm
Oh wow, that is a LONG way off! Nice work getting it where it needed to be.



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