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Topic: A collection of 1894s
Posted By: BurghDude
Subject: A collection of 1894s
Date Posted: May-27-2018 at 5:56pm
Some of us had the thought that it would be fun to have a thread to which people could submit images of their 1894s.  There are so many varieties of that gun, having a visual catalog would be both fun and challenging.  So I thought I'd start this thread to be that repository.  My thought that as guns get added, I'll update this primary message to list the guns for which pictures have been loaded. Anyone can add, or send me pictures to add. Let's find out if more than 2 people are really interested in this project ;) 

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Buffalo Bill, Chief of Scouts (regular, as opposed to the Cody Special or the Canadian versions) 
Also a Canadian Buffalo Bill
Also a Buffalo Bill Carbine 
Also a 1846-1996 LE Cody and Buffalo Bill Commemorative. Wood stock, badge with 
                 "1896-1996 Cody Museum" and "1846-1996 Buffalo Bill"
         Also the Cody Museum 1894 only available from the Cody Museum:  
                 "Land of Buffalo Bill" Cody, Wyoming

Sears Golden Boy and Golden Spike.  The official name seems to be the "Ted Williams Model 66"
Also more Golden Boy Octagonal Barrel
Also the round barrel Sears Golden Boy

The Wells Fargo with the silver receiver with black text and stagecoach, and badge in stock.  
        Also the dark receiver version.

A Chrome one?!

An 1894 "Classic", with an interesting silkscreen design

A "Spittin' Image".. the base model 1894?

The Ducks Unlimited "Greenwing" with a Bronze colored receiver
Also a different Ducks Unlimited Greenwing, based on a side safety plastic receiver model. '74?

The Rocky Mountain Elk Foundation gun, with chromed lever, loading gate and barrel band, coin inlay on receiver, and silkscreening

One with a factory mounted scope

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The Wood Stock guns
Cody and Buffalo Bill LE Commemorative, as above in the Buffalo Bill section
John Wayne Commemorative
Daisy Winchester
Texas Ranger, released as just a carved stock Winchester, and as a set with a special 179
        Friends of the Daisy Museum 2003

The NRA Centennial 1971

The Classic Western Set, packaged with a 179

Commemorative 1894 Limited Edition "In Recognition of the 1894 Carbine 1894-1994"

Texas Ranger, based on a metal sided plastic stock gun, with the Texas Ranger badge silkscreened on the receiver, and a badge in the stock. 73-74?

JC Penny Commemorative 1894, courtesy of John of JGAriguns.biz and the 1985 JC Penny's Christmas catalog

--Known about, but no pictures yet

Wells Fargo, based on a metal sided plastic stock gun, dark receiver with the logo and stagecoach.





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Posted By: BurghDude
Date Posted: May-27-2018 at 6:00pm
My first older Daisy gun.  I still take it out and shoot it from time to time.  Interesting to note that when I rebuilt it 4 (I think) years ago it shot at 270pfs.  Now it is down to 230.  This gun might give a practical guide as to how long those seals can be expected to last.  

Also, the front barrel band is just reflecting a little light in this shot.  It is dark.  But on the Canadian models, that band is as bright as the grip band!







A Canadian Buffalo Bill.  Notice the bright barrel band, front sight, loading door, rear sight ramp, follower...


Here is a side by side of the Canadian and American Buffalo Bills.  The front sight and bb follower are chrome too!


Another Buffalo Bill.  This one is just called 'Carbine', and doesn't have a coin.




Here is the Limited Edition 1846-1996 Commemorative with wood stock and grip.  The Medallion says "1896-1996 Cody Museum" and "1846-1996 Buffalo Bill"








This is the 1894 issued sold only from the Cody Museum.









Posted By: BurghDude
Date Posted: May-27-2018 at 6:09pm
Golden or Yellow Boy and Golden Spike.  It is possible the Golden Boy was modeled after the Henry of the same name, but that gun had a shiny finish, so I'm not sure how this one earned its name.  The Golden Spike (the shiny version) does seem to be based on the Winchester Golden Spike, a gun made to commemorate the Transcontinental Railroad.  It is possible that there's nothing formal about either of those names, and that's just what some Daisy folk called them, and it stuck!  What do I know.  In any case, these two shared the same Sears stock number: 799.190540




Trying to better show the difference in finishes:


The cursive writing on the barrel is a little different between the two.  It was hard to photograph, but I think this caught it:


Here are more shots of the Golden Boy, or Yellow Boy...




Here is the Round Barrel Sears.  Sorry, it is hard to see that it has a round barrel!  But you can see that it has a barrel band, not a grip end cap like the octagonal guns have.





Posted By: BurghDude
Date Posted: May-28-2018 at 6:39pm
The Wells Fargo:










Here's the dark receiver version:



Posted By: BurghDude
Date Posted: May-29-2018 at 5:40pm
Here's an odd one, shiny, but no text!  Might have been a one off experiment.  Not bad looking, though!






Posted By: BurghDude
Date Posted: May-29-2018 at 9:57pm
An 1894 "Classic"








Posted By: BurghDude
Date Posted: May-29-2018 at 10:06pm
Can't forget the base Spittin Image...






Posted By: BurghDude
Date Posted: May-29-2018 at 10:23pm
The Ducks Unlimited "Greenwing".  The receiver looks good in Bronze!







There was a second Ducks Unlimited Greenwing, based on a side safety model.



Posted By: BurghDude
Date Posted: May-29-2018 at 10:35pm
The Rocky Mountain Elk Foundation gun.








Posted By: BurghDude
Date Posted: May-29-2018 at 11:01pm
An 1894 with a factory mounted sight!  For this run Daisy made a different outer barrel with the scope dovetail built into it.  JG has some of those parts in their inventory.  Never mind that the 1894 is a top ejecting gun that could never really have a sight like that :) 







Posted By: BurghDude
Date Posted: May-30-2018 at 5:20pm
Wood Stock Guns

The Cody Museum gun, as also seen in the Buffalo Bill section:



The John Wayne Commemorative Edition:







The Daisy Winchester







The Texas Ranger, which was released both as just a Winchester, and as a set with a 179.  The 179 had a Ranger star on it as well.










Friends of the Daisy Museum 2003 issue







Posted By: BurghDude
Date Posted: May-30-2018 at 6:12pm
The 1871 NRA Centennial 1971.  This was also released by itself, and also with a special serial number matching 179.  I don't have a picture of that yet. 











Posted By: BurghDude
Date Posted: May-30-2018 at 6:17pm
The Classic Western Set, packaged with a 179








Posted By: BurghDude
Date Posted: May-30-2018 at 8:09pm
Commemorative 1894 Limited Edition "In Recognition of the 1894 Carbine 1894-1994"










Posted By: BurghDude
Date Posted: May-31-2018 at 8:58pm
The metal side Texas Ranger.  








Posted By: BurghDude
Date Posted: June-16-2018 at 10:37pm
Here's a rare treat, brought to you courtesy of John of JGAriguns.biz.  He had an image of a catalog page from the 1985 JC Penny's Christmas catalog, showing the elusive JC Penny Commemorative 1894.  Thank you John for sharing!  And a note to JC Penny's, if I'm doing anything wrong putting this picture from your catalog up, please let me know and I'll take it down.






Posted By: BurghDude
Date Posted: March-10-2019 at 3:06pm
And finally, pictures of a real gun!








Posted By: twocompassheads
Date Posted: March-10-2019 at 10:24pm
Burghdude,  Very nice collection of 1894's in pristine shape.



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Ride and Have Fun


Posted By: cobalt327
Date Posted: March-10-2019 at 11:52pm
A few more of the JC Pennys 1894 from an expired auction site:
 
 
 
 
 
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Posted By: twocompassheads
Date Posted: March-11-2019 at 8:03pm
Colbalt327, what is the registration or lot number on that?

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Posted By: cobalt327
Date Posted: March-12-2019 at 11:42am
I honestly don't know, it was listed at Gun Broker and has been sold already. FWIW, I think 1894s all use Reg. No.s.


Posted By: cobalt327
Date Posted: March-12-2019 at 2:20pm
Here are some very nice 1894s from mailto:Yng@hrt" rel="nofollow -
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 


Posted By: geeklife
Date Posted: June-02-2019 at 7:51pm
Those are some glorious air guns. Thanks for sharing!


Posted By: BB1Shooter
Date Posted: June-03-2019 at 8:37pm
Cobalt327, is the above collection of Daisy 1894's for sale?


Posted By: geeklife
Date Posted: June-03-2019 at 9:39pm
A lot of them are MarvMar's and he has some for sale. I bought a nice one from him today.
Here is his email.
mbfgdn@bright.net


Posted By: BB1Shooter
Date Posted: June-03-2019 at 10:01pm
Are the pictures just above of the 5 Sears Roebucks & the Wells Fargo his?
 


Posted By: BB1Shooter
Date Posted: June-03-2019 at 10:03pm
Is this him?
 
http://www.airguns.net/classifieds/show_ad.php?adNum=177629&adSort=&StartingAd=150&NumberOfPages=5" rel="nofollow - http://www.airguns.net/classifieds/show_ad.php?adNum=177629&adSort=&StartingAd=150&NumberOfPages=5


Posted By: geeklife
Date Posted: June-03-2019 at 10:15pm
I don't believe so but I could be wrong.


Posted By: cobalt327
Date Posted: June-03-2019 at 11:09pm
Originally posted by BB1Shooter BB1Shooter wrote:

Cobalt327, is the above collection of Daisy 1894's for sale?
The guns shown above in my post are owned by screen name mailto:yng@hrt" rel="nofollow -


Posted By: BB1Shooter
Date Posted: June-04-2019 at 12:51am
If it is not mailto:yng@hrt" rel="nofollow - yng@hrt who is selling his collection of airguns?
 
http://www.airguns.net/classifieds/show_ad.php?adNum=177629&adSort=&StartingAd=150&NumberOfPages=5" rel="nofollow - http://www.airguns.net/classifieds/show_ad.php?adNum=177629&adSort=&StartingAd=150&NumberOfPages=5
 
 


Posted By: cobalt327
Date Posted: June-04-2019 at 8:24am
The link isn't working. At AA, mailto:yng@hrt" rel="nofollow - yng@hrt is "Marty". There, he's selling an 1894 and a couple 880s in one listing and has a WTB for a couple Benjamin's in 2 other listings. I didn't see where he's selling a collection but he may have had such a listing- but it's not there now. Listings time out there pretty quick because of the volume of listings, currently the oldest listing is from 5-25.
 
I would suggest PMing him through GTA. He's there daily.


Posted By: nealbone
Date Posted: February-09-2020 at 4:36pm
How can I post a picture of my gun

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Bone!


Posted By: cobalt327
Date Posted: February-09-2020 at 6:53pm
You can email it to me and I'd be glad to post it for you.


Posted By: cobalt327
Date Posted: February-10-2020 at 10:59am
Originally posted by nealbone nealbone wrote:

How can I post a picture of my gun
Here it is:









Posted By: twocompassheads
Date Posted: February-10-2020 at 10:23pm
Cobalt327
      I was going through this post and notice what you said about the 1894's and no LOT #.  they started LOT numbers around the end of 78 or sometime into the 80's before the end of production in 86 of the model 1894.  The gun I'm holding is a newer one and it has a LOT # under the barrel along with the two patent numbers.  The gun is one of the last changes that they did before the end of production.  It has the red dot on the hammer when you cock it back for safety or to fire, also the front of the trigger has a red dot for safety also.  Another change was the rear sight is only one piece of thin metal all the way without the extra piece of metal attached to it at the V notch.  It also has the loading instructions on the butt plate.  The LOT # is  A001671  so it probably was made in January of 1980 (which is the A0)
     Everything else is traditional 1894 and I believe they came out with the side safety switch when it was reintroduced with the safety and loading instructions on the receivers.  I don't care for these guns and don't collect them.


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Posted By: cobalt327
Date Posted: February-10-2020 at 10:59pm
Thank you for that info, I appreciated it. I have made a note of it.

This reminds me- am I remembering correctly that you said there was 1/16" tapoer in the compressiuon chamber, ir was it something different?

Thanks again, Mark


Posted By: twocompassheads
Date Posted: February-11-2020 at 8:06pm
Cobalt327
    That is correct, the taper from the start of the plunger seal to the surface of the abutment seal is 2 1/4 inches long and the barrel tapers 4/64's or 1/8 inch.  I can only measure the difference from the outside of the barrel.  The barrel is 22 gauge thick material.  I'm going to take a bad barrel and cut out a channel in the air chamber and watch the compression of the spring when cocked and see how much more it can handle and see if it is almost completely compressed.
     When the gun is cocked I believe the spring is almost fully compressed, so a longer spring may compress all the way and not allow the cocking lever to engage and hold the plunger back in the firing position.  The spring is preloaded when the anchor spring is put into place after the plunger is installed.  Like you said maybe a couple of washers on the stock spring might allow a little more compression and a harder force on the plunger seal.  The extra power could over time damage or break loose the 6 spot welds on the barrel bushing and then the barrel is subject to damage that not many people can fix easily and the gun will never shoot normal again without the fix.


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Posted By: cobalt327
Date Posted: February-12-2020 at 6:32pm
Wow. 1/8" of taper seems like an awful lot, I thought it was 1/16"! It would seem to me that the piston would be slowed by the increase in friction caused by that much taper.


Posted By: cobalt327
Date Posted: February-13-2020 at 3:33pm
Can anyone shed any light on this 1894- when it was made, is it a 'special edition', or anything else about it? Similar decoration was used during the '70s on other Daisys, for what that's worth...
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Rare-Daisy-1894-Stage-Coach-BB-Gun/274256412288?hash=item3fdaf4be80:g:L6oAAOSwkaNePx4d" rel="nofollow - https://www.ebay.com/itm/Rare-Daisy-1894-Stage-Coach-BB-Gun/274256412288?hash=item3fdaf4be80:g:L6oAAOSwkaNePx4d



Posted By: MarvMar
Date Posted: February-13-2020 at 4:22pm
It was a special edition "STAGECOACH EDITION" made for JC Penny. One sold for $305 on Gun Auction in 2005.

Following is a post by BB1 Shooter on April 23, 2019.

I did some research and found that Daisy did produce the older version 1894 (40 shot model, load BB's in receiver) (vs. the 15 shot Winchester/Daisy 1894, load BB's in the barrel, from the 2000's) with wood stocks. They made a couple of different models of the 1894 with wood.
One was the Buffalo Bill/Cody WY Centennial (1846-1996) with a coin imbedded into the stock. They only made 2,500 of these in 1995-1996. They planned on making 5,000 but ran into problems with the wood and revised it to only 2,500. They had to reissue the certificates that came with the gun to list them as out of 2,500, not 5,000.
They also made a wood stock "Stagecoach" version for JC Penny, but this was limited production (possibly less than 1,000) as store quit sell BB guns around time it was introduced. Member keenkutterrick, may have more info, as he sold one on eBay recently.


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Marv, NW OH


Posted By: cobalt327
Date Posted: February-13-2020 at 9:56pm
Thanks Marv. Too bad the one on ebay now isn't wood. Maybe someone swapped with plastic, or maybe they were made with plastic as well as wood. Anyway, if the plastic stock version is legit it's one more for the 1894 variations.


Posted By: BB1Shooter
Date Posted: February-14-2020 at 2:34am
Looks like this one has plastic stocks, not wood stocks. Did Daisy make 2 types of Stage Coach 1894's for JC Penny. One with wood & one with plastic?
 
 



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