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Red Ryder 80th Anniv MYSTERY !!!

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Topic: Red Ryder 80th Anniv MYSTERY !!!
Posted By: MarvMar
Subject: Red Ryder 80th Anniv MYSTERY !!!
Date Posted: October-31-2019 at 1:15pm
A week or so ago I "complained" about how I had just purchased one of the Red Ryder 80th Anniv guns from the Daisy Museum...and Paid almost $25 shipping for a $35 gun. LOL

So, I guess I might have been in to big a hurry to buy. I've been watching them on e-bay...and right now there is at least a dozen guys who are listing them for anywhere between $75 and $150. BUT, 2 sellers really caught my eye. One (see item # 254404870936) has one of his listed for $500 which he claims is #1, and claims he has three more numbered guns.  

A second seller (see item # 184015604303) has #13 listed for $900. 
I was always under the impression the the Museum kept the first 2 numbered guns...so after I carefully examined my gun looking for the "number" (NON EXISTENT), I contacted the Museum and here's their response:

It is not a numbered  Gun. 

-----Original Message-----
From: Marvin [ mailto:mbfgdn@bright.net" rel="nofollow - mailto:mbfgdn@bright.net ] 
Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2019 9:49 AM
To:  mailto:Info@daisymuseum.com" rel="nofollow - Info@daisymuseum.com 
Subject: Red Ryder 80th anniversary bb gun

Was the Daisy Red Ryder 80th Anniversary a NUMBERED gun?

There are at least 3 e-bay auctions stating the owner has #1, #13, #27, etc, asking prices $500 and UP !!!!!

I just recently purchased this model from the Museum and can not find any indication of a Number ?????    Marv, Defiance, OH
I e-mailed one of the sellers and he promised to send me photos of the "Number"....still waiting.
Any ideas???
Marv


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Marv, NW OH



Replies:
Posted By: MarvMar
Date Posted: October-31-2019 at 1:19pm

New message from: https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/e11051.m44.l1181/7?euid=d12f363504d54b9ca874ad6ec928e9f5&bu=43147367170&loc=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fulk%2Fusr%2Fsheep-dog-tactical&sojTags=bu=bu" rel="nofollow - sheep-dog-tactical https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/e11051.m44.l1183/7?euid=d12f363504d54b9ca874ad6ec928e9f5&bu=43147367170&loc=https%3A%2F%2Ffeedback.ebay.com%2Fws%2FeBayISAPI.dll%3FViewFeedback%26userid%3Dsheep-dog-tactical%26ssPageName%3DSTRK%3AME%3AUFS&sojTags=bu=bu" rel="nofollow - (1,185)

So does yours have a #2 laser engraving?
I have #1, #25, and #17. Congrats if you legit do have one.




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Marv, NW OH


Posted By: MarvMar
Date Posted: October-31-2019 at 1:21pm



New message from: https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/e11051.m44.l1181/7?euid=6d323a162e5c4393967c67e04ec506d0&bu=43147367170&loc=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fulk%2Fusr%2Fsheep-dog-tactical&sojTags=bu=bu" rel="nofollow - sheep-dog-tactical https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/e11051.m44.l1183/7?euid=6d323a162e5c4393967c67e04ec506d0&bu=43147367170&loc=https%3A%2F%2Ffeedback.ebay.com%2Fws%2FeBayISAPI.dll%3FViewFeedback%26userid%3Dsheep-dog-tactical%26ssPageName%3DSTRK%3AME%3AUFS&sojTags=bu=bu" rel="nofollow - (1,185)

Yes sir. Ill take pics for you when i get back to the office. Im not here to argue with you sir. They are definitely something special.



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Marv, NW OH


Posted By: MarvMar
Date Posted: October-31-2019 at 1:23pm

New message from: https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/e11051.m44.l1181/7?euid=5aa92c5914b44a89bd70d4d89b275ec1&bu=43147367170&loc=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fulk%2Fusr%2Fsheep-dog-tactical&sojTags=bu=bu" rel="nofollow - sheep-dog-tactical https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/e11051.m44.l1183/7?euid=5aa92c5914b44a89bd70d4d89b275ec1&bu=43147367170&loc=https%3A%2F%2Ffeedback.ebay.com%2Fws%2FeBayISAPI.dll%3FViewFeedback%26userid%3Dsheep-dog-tactical%26ssPageName%3DSTRK%3AME%3AUFS&sojTags=bu=bu" rel="nofollow - (1,185)

I just called Daisy myself and spoke with them. They confirmed the engraving on the forearm. It appears the one you bought for $34 was regular production. This one is one of the 1st 1000 and is among the elite of collectors editions. There are many like it but none like this one. Its kind of like buying a Rolex. Anyone can buy a Rolex. But if you want the one worn by President Roosevelt youre 



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Marv, NW OH


Posted By: MarvMar
Date Posted: October-31-2019 at 1:24pm
OK guys...sorry about posting  all the above "communications"...but ...
what do you think?



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Marv, NW OH


Posted By: cobalt327
Date Posted: October-31-2019 at 1:29pm
It will be interesting to see what the seller is calling the "number". Does it have a number code for the date and production sequence like 'regular' 1938Bs? Maybe they're using that number, or at least some part of it, to be "the" number.

The sad thing is there just could be some careless new Daisy collector who will actually buy one of these over inflated guns. 

ETA- I just read the posts that were added while I was typing. I guess there could be a special run with numbers. Daisy has done this before so it wouldn't be too surprising if this gun was done that way too. But why wouldn't the museum have mentioned this special run?


Posted By: cobalt327
Date Posted: October-31-2019 at 1:35pm
And even if there are numbered 80th's, they are not worth that much to anyone with a critical eye for value me.


Posted By: cobalt327
Date Posted: October-31-2019 at 1:45pm
irrelevant


Posted By: mbrooks401
Date Posted: October-31-2019 at 3:08pm
Yesterday on Instagram Daisy Outdoors advised there was no special numbered edition and cautioned people to only buy these from Walmart and the Daisy Museum. I picked one up at the museum last week and it has no special numbering engraved on it.


Posted By: MarvMar
Date Posted: October-31-2019 at 4:02pm
Interesting...I talked to the guys at Daisy Outdoors yesterday afternoon and they assured me this 80th anniversary issue was not numbered. I don't do "instagram", but wonder if their post was a response???

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Marv, NW OH


Posted By: stevec
Date Posted: October-31-2019 at 4:02pm
Could it be there was a special run done by Daisy. People tend to get the museum mixed up with Daisy manufacturing.Did he ever send any pictures. I remember something like this with the 50th Ann rifle. There were two different types.
Stevec


Posted By: mbrooks401
Date Posted: October-31-2019 at 4:25pm
May well have been.


Posted By: 1doublebarrel
Date Posted: November-01-2019 at 9:50am
I too am confused.  the same ebay seller said he would send pictures if I wanted them.  I said ok,  send me pictures,  still waiting.  I also talked to Daisy outdoor products and they said 25000 were made for Walmart and some for the museum.  as I understand it,  the museum did not order these.  I am still working on this.  I think someone is undermining the work that the museum does and that is not ok with me.  

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1doublebarrel


Posted By: MarvMar
Date Posted: November-01-2019 at 6:45pm
Some more "interesting" info.
The e-bay seller who promised to send pics of his numbered guns...has other 80th Anniversary guns also for sale. (Oh..and by the way...still waiting for the pics !)
Item 254404870936   $575 for #1
Item 254404791454   $99
Item 254402540206    $71 for #21
All 3 items are identical, and probably all used the same pics.
In an e-mail he told me he has #1,#13 and #27, and then in another he said he has #1, #17, and #25
Go figure ????????



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Marv, NW OH


Posted By: cobalt327
Date Posted: November-01-2019 at 9:03pm
I just asked him: "Can I see the etching/engraving of the "1 of 1000", please?" 

His reply (cut and paste from ebay): 
"We are currently out of town on a business trip until Tuesday evening. Unfortunately i wont have an opportunity to take adfitional photos until then. Im not certain exactly when this auction ends. Hopefully there is still time. We do have offers locally for this gun so its unclear if this will be relisted if it doesnt sell before Tuesday. We do also have #17 and #25 as well that will be posted for sale when we get back too. The engraving is on the other side of the forearm and is in similar size as the other engravings seen on the opposite side of the forearm. Ill contact u tuesday if not too late. This gun is a once in a lifetime opportunity and could sell at any moment. Wish you luck"

sheep-dog-tactical

ETA- I just noticed they updated the description with: "We will update photos later to show 1/1000 engraving."

Also just saw the 25/1000 gun has two bids, it's at $76.

If I was asking that much for a gun (the 1/1000 gun), I'd have shown the number of the gun as well as the gun itself in much better detail than the photos that are with the listings now. The last photo is a stock photo pulled of the 'net. 


Posted By: cobalt327
Date Posted: November-01-2019 at 9:50pm
Another reply from the seller:

"I just looked and this auction will end Nov 6th at 3:00 am MST. I will be able to send the photos before the auction closes giving you enough time to make a bid. I dont want you to miss this very rare opportunity to own such an amazing piece." (Bold mine.)


Posted By: BSAGuy
Date Posted: November-02-2019 at 7:32am
Something smells very fishy here, doesn't it?

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Be Prepared


Posted By: cobalt327
Date Posted: November-02-2019 at 10:36am
TBH, I don't know what to make of it. There are a lot of choices: Could be legit. As I said earlier, Daisy has done this type of thing before- so there is precedence. Stevec also mentioned this. Could be the seller got took and doesn't know it. Or he does know it and is desperately hoping to unload before ebay catches wind that it's a scam. Or he perpetrated the whole scam. Or none of these things (enter best guess here)- take your pick! haha 

But the seller IS bordering on the hard sell with all the "once in a lifetime opportunity and could sell at any moment" and "rare opportunity to own such an amazing piece" hyperbole.




Posted By: BSAGuy
Date Posted: November-02-2019 at 11:50am
When something sounds too good to be true it usually is.

If this were legit, the seller would be able to post pics and want to to handle legitimate questions.


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Be Prepared


Posted By: zipper28
Date Posted: November-02-2019 at 1:19pm


Just ordered one from Walmart for $24.47.  The Daisy Museum site says  Note: There is no officially licensed or Daisy-created numbered edition of this gun.  Only Walmart and this museum have acquired this gun from Daisy and none of them have a serial number of 0001 to 1000 of 1000 engraved on them. 

Can't wait to get it and see what number it is (or could be).


Posted By: mbrooks401
Date Posted: November-02-2019 at 4:03pm
I just left the museum and they confirmed as of now there are no official numbered 80th red ryders. I also learned that sometime in 2020 there will be a special limited and numbered edition but at present there is no official numbered version. Buy at your own risk.


Posted By: MarvMar
Date Posted: November-02-2019 at 7:22pm
Just now received this from the "other" seller ?????

New message from: https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/e11051.m44.l1181/7?euid=969bb91504644a04947418875452aed3&bu=43147367170&loc=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fulk%2Fusr%2Fchefwilcox&sojTags=bu=bu" rel="nofollow - chefwilcox https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/e11051.m44.l1183/7?euid=969bb91504644a04947418875452aed3&bu=43147367170&loc=https%3A%2F%2Ffeedback.ebay.com%2Fws%2FeBayISAPI.dll%3FViewFeedback%26userid%3Dchefwilcox%26ssPageName%3DSTRK%3AME%3AUFS&sojTags=bu=bu" rel="nofollow - (48)

We were lucky enough to receive several of these rare models that included the highly coveted number engravings into the forearm
This one in particular is #13. We use the same images for all models thus reason number isn't shown. It is however present on the forearm and does include the Red rider scabbard that was only offered with these 1_1000 models. Lots of misinformed employees at Daisy.. Can't imagine reson why a company would not recommend buying one of their own products.. But then its not up to me to tell them how to run their business.. Good luck to you.



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Marv, NW OH


Posted By: cobalt327
Date Posted: November-02-2019 at 8:25pm
I just email Daisy Outdoors customer service. 

I am writing today in hopes that you can clear up what seems to be a disagreement as to whether there is, or is not a limited edition run of numbered (1 to 1,000) 80th Anniversary Daisy Red Ryders. There have been guns appearing on eBay that claim to be these so-called limited edition guns but the sellers have thus far been unable to produce any photos of the forearm area showing the numbers, and the Daisy Museum has said there are no such guns, to the best of their knowledge.

Can you deny or confirm the existence of such a gun?

Thank you for your time and assistance with this.

Regards, Mark

I will post their reply.


Posted By: BSAGuy
Date Posted: November-03-2019 at 9:13am
All the posts I have read here make it clear in my mind that these alleged limited edition guns are a chimera.

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Be Prepared


Posted By: cobalt327
Date Posted: November-04-2019 at 9:52am
Originally posted by cobalt327 cobalt327 wrote:

I just email Daisy Outdoors customer service. 

I am writing today in hopes that you can clear up what seems to be a disagreement as to whether there is, or is not a limited edition run of numbered (1 to 1,000) 80th Anniversary Daisy Red Ryders. There have been guns appearing on eBay that claim to be these so-called limited edition guns but the sellers have thus far been unable to produce any photos of the forearm area showing the numbers, and the Daisy Museum has said there are no such guns, to the best of their knowledge.

Can you deny or confirm the existence of such a gun?

Thank you for your time and assistance with this.

Regards, Mark

I will post their reply.
Customer Service, Daisy <info@daisy.com>
Mon 11/4/2019 9:37 AM

Mark,


Thank you for contacting Daisy. I can assure you that 25,000 model 1938B’s 80th anniversary gun were made and we did not put such number on any of the stock or forearms. They were a Walmart exclusive only. I would not purchase anything from eBay as we have seen those guns being modified to their own liking.


Thank you,

 

Daisy Outdoor Products/ Gamo/ BSA/ First Nature/ Winchester

Consumer Services

479-636-1200



Posted By: cobalt327
Date Posted: November-04-2019 at 10:23am
I asked sheep dog tactical: 
"Another question if I may, did you buy this gun yourself directly from the Daisy Museum or from another seller? I do not want to know who, just if it came to you directly from the Museum or not.

Thank you again, Mark"

The reply:
All, including this one are new in box from distribution center. Seems youll find several other people that have gotten others of the 1000 and are also listed here on ebay. Most are numbers 17+ of the 1000 but are also priced similarly and are in locations all of the united states. The 1000 also came with a red scabbard too which is amazing. Its to my understanding that these were accidentally put into market. You wouldnt believe how many people i had to speak to finally get an answer out of them. Regardless, this is a very unique piece sure to please any true Daisy collector. Good luck.
(bold mine)
END OF REPLY

No idea what this "distribution center" is but they didn't say "museum" or Walmart, etc. so no idea where they came from. Regardless, I'm satisfied the guns are bogus. But now I wonder whether these two sellers who are touting "x of 1000" guns are behind the scam or were duped themselves.





Posted By: zipper28
Date Posted: November-04-2019 at 2:52pm

I'm still waiting to see a picture of the engraving. I noticed in the sold listing of the #25 of 1000 that nowhere in the description does it mention 25 of 1000. Only in the title.


Posted By: MarvMar
Date Posted: November-04-2019 at 4:37pm
Just now received an e-mail from sheep tog tactical...
See item # 254404870936
I magnified the printing....???? is it authentic????


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Marv, NW OH


Posted By: mbrooks401
Date Posted: November-04-2019 at 5:42pm
It is authentic to someone but not Daisy. If you study the number photo you can see very small dots in the bottom of the numbers/characters. When you look at the original Daisy work you can see there are no dots plus you can see the imperfections of the wood through the letters unlike the work added by someone else. As confirmed by both Daisy Outdoors and Museum staff buyer beware...


Posted By: MarvMar
Date Posted: November-04-2019 at 7:11pm
Interesting...compare the "0" in Daisy's printing to the 0 in the questionable numbering.

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Marv, NW OH


Posted By: zipper28
Date Posted: November-04-2019 at 9:10pm
Hey what happened to the picture of the 1/1000 engraving? It was there for a while and now it’s gone. Must need to touch up the picture better.


Posted By: cobalt327
Date Posted: November-05-2019 at 6:23am
sheepdog has blocked me from contacting him! 

I contacted ebay told them the guns are bogus, I doubt they'll do anything about it- they stand to profit from this deceit, after all. 


Posted By: BSAGuy
Date Posted: November-05-2019 at 8:37pm
This is not a mystery, guys.  It's called a fraud.

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Be Prepared


Posted By: cobalt327
Date Posted: November-06-2019 at 12:16am
Originally posted by zipper28 zipper28 wrote:

Hey what happened to the picture of the 1/1000 engraving? It was there for a while and now it’s gone. Must need to touch up the picture better.
Darn, I missed it. If anyone happened to copy it while it was up I'd really like to see it. You can email it to cobalt327 at hotmail cot com


Posted By: cobalt327
Date Posted: November-06-2019 at 12:31am
Originally posted by MarvMar MarvMar wrote:

Just now received an e-mail from sheep tog tactical...
See item # 254404870936
I magnified the printing....???? is it authentic????
Marv, was the seller asking you if it was authentic, or were you posing the question to the community at large?

Thanks, Mark


Posted By: MarvMar
Date Posted: November-06-2019 at 7:38am
Mark, I was asking the question....if anyone who saw the pic believed the printing was "for real". Under magnification it looked like it had been printed with one of those old "dot printers"....also, the Zero digit was totally mismatched with the Daisy printing on the opposite side.



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Marv, NW OH


Posted By: Bavaria55n
Date Posted: November-06-2019 at 8:57am
Yes, you have flushed him out--
I asked if he could provide a picture of the number--

A truely remarkable piece indeed. 
You can take your own pics when it arrives. Thanks

Gary


Posted By: cobalt327
Date Posted: November-06-2019 at 11:01am
Originally posted by MarvMar MarvMar wrote:

Mark, I was asking the question....if anyone who saw the pic believed the printing was "for real". Under magnification it looked like it had been printed with one of those old "dot printers"....also, the Zero digit was totally mismatched with the Daisy printing on the opposite side.

Thanks Marv. Sounds just a bogus as ever and apparently with no effort to be honest by the seller, either. I just hope no one buys it- or ANY of the fake numbered guns. Unfortunately the other 80th that had 2 bids on it is gone, he probably sold it (ETA see next post for 25/1000 gun). The price last time I saw it was barely within reason compared to what the Museum gets but way, WAY higher than Walmart- but with the fake numbers the collector value of the gun has already been lost.


Posted By: cobalt327
Date Posted: November-06-2019 at 11:12am
I just checked and the 1 of 1000 80th gun is gone from sheepdog's listings. The POS sold it for $400.  https://www.ebay.com/itm/Daisy-Red-Ryder-1-of-1000-Limited-Edition-80th-Anniversary-/254404870936?_trksid=p2047675.l2557&nma=true&si=mWJEhG%252B7vob5jTwr%252F38RYiF2JBU%253D&orig_cvip=true&nordt=true&rt=nc" rel="nofollow - https://www.ebay.com/itm/Daisy-Red-Ryder-1-of-1000-Limited-Edition-80th-Anniversary-/254404870936?_trksid=p2047675.l2557&nma=true&si=mWJEhG%252B7vob5jTwr%252F38RYiF2JBU%253D&orig_cvip=true&nordt=true&rt=nc

The 25/1000 gun sold for $76, had 2 bidders. The rest of the 80th guns this scam artist has sold are here:  https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_sofindtype=0&_byseller=1&_nkw=DAISY&_in_kw=1&_ex_kw=&_sacat=0&LH_Sold=1&_udlo=&_udhi=&_samilow=&_samihi=&_sadis=15&_stpos=30016&_sargn=-1%26saslc%3D1&_salic=1&_fss=1&_fsradio=%26LH_SpecificSeller%3D1&_saslop=1&_sasl=sheep-dog-tactical&_sop=12&_dmd=1&_ipg=200&LH_Complete=1&_fosrp=1" rel="nofollow - https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_sofindtype=0&_byseller=1&_nkw=DAISY&_in_kw=1&_ex_kw=&_sacat=0&LH_Sold=1&_udlo=&_udhi=&_samilow=&_samihi=&_sadis=15&_stpos=30016&_sargn=-1%26saslc%3D1&_salic=1&_fss=1&_fsradio=%26LH_SpecificSeller%3D1&_saslop=1&_sasl=sheep-dog-tactical&_sop=12&_dmd=1&_ipg=200&LH_Complete=1&_fosrp=1




Posted By: Humplik
Date Posted: November-06-2019 at 1:23pm
Unfortunately you can buy a laser for $300 dollars and add numbers to the forearm. I would just take it as a scam if Daisy Museum stated they are not numbered. I have 3 and no numbers.


Posted By: Humplik
Date Posted: November-06-2019 at 1:29pm
I think this is a play on words because Daisy did say they only made 1000. So technically it is 1 of a 1000, not #1 of production. Some people do not do research on guns before they buy them.


Posted By: cobalt327
Date Posted: November-06-2019 at 2:28pm
Originally posted by Humplik Humplik wrote:

I think this is a play on words because Daisy did say they only made 1000. So technically it is 1 of a 1000, not #1 of production. Some people do not do research on guns before they buy them.
The following is an email sent by me to Daisy Outdoors Customer Service. I deal with these folks routinely. They know what's up.
Originally posted by cobalt327 cobalt327 wrote:

"I am writing today in hopes that you can clear up what seems to be a disagreement as to whether there is, or is not a limited edition run of numbered (1 to 1,000) 80th Anniversary Daisy Red Ryders. There have been guns appearing on eBay that claim to be these so-called limited edition guns but the sellers have thus far been unable to produce any photos of the forearm area showing the numbers, and the Daisy Museum has said there are no such guns, to the best of their knowledge.

Can you deny or confirm the existence of such a gun?

Thank you for your time and assistance with this.

Regards, Mark"

Their reply:

Quote Customer Service, Daisy <info@daisy.com>
Mon 11/4/2019 9:37 AM

Mark,


Thank you for contacting Daisy. I can assure you that 25,000 model 1938B’s 80th anniversary gun were made and we did not put such number on any of the stock or forearms. They were a Walmart exclusive only. I would not purchase anything from eBay as we have seen those guns being modified to their own liking.


Thank you,

 

Daisy Outdoor Products/ Gamo/ BSA/ First Nature/ Winchester

Consumer Services

479-636-1200

AFAIC no play on words, it was- and IS- a scam, period. Just like Marv alluded to in the OP of this thread, I might add.


Posted By: Bavaria55n
Date Posted: November-07-2019 at 4:44pm
A great lesson for being in touch with knowledgeable people. This is a great place to establish those kind of contacts.
Gary


Posted By: dokie
Date Posted: November-16-2019 at 12:04pm
Stacks of 80th anniv. at Walmart. 24.97. i bought 2.


Posted By: zipper28
Date Posted: November-23-2019 at 10:28am

Not to beat a dead horse but I noticed that the same person bought a regular 80th Anniversary for $99, #1 for $400 and #26 for $185 from this seller. Guess no one else wanted them that badly.


Posted By: cobalt327
Date Posted: November-24-2019 at 12:01am
I had not noticed that. Kind of relieved in a way- at least there's not a lot of folks being duped into buying these fake bogus ripoffs.


Posted By: Dannop2
Date Posted: November-25-2019 at 12:46pm
Like Barnum said ...one born every day LOL , hey you tried Mark .

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Realshooter


Posted By: Airitis
Date Posted: November-26-2019 at 9:08am
Hmmm. If I were the skeptical type:

Imagine a seller who wanted outrageous prices. Imagine nobody was buying. A seller could "invent" a buyer for a group of items, increasing demand and adding legitimacy for future offerings.

NAW! That would never happen.

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Air-It-Is


Posted By: oldwizzer
Date Posted: November-26-2019 at 12:35pm
Nice detective work , glad you flushed out the culprit.

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Ejwills


Posted By: stevec
Date Posted: November-26-2019 at 5:19pm
Has anyone tried to contact the buyer of the bogus rifles to let them know what he or she brought
Stevec


Posted By: MarvMar
Date Posted: December-31-2019 at 11:12am
HA !!!!
He's back...
#30 this time...
Also has an un-numbered one for $70.
Think I'll stick with wal-mart !!!


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Marv, NW OH


Posted By: BSAGuy
Date Posted: December-31-2019 at 3:49pm
Just keeps turning up like a bad penny.

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Be Prepared


Posted By: zipper28
Date Posted: December-31-2019 at 4:50pm
So this guy never shows you the number on the gun, replaces the plastic cocking lever with a metal one and claims it's made in the USA when the box says made in China? You can see he sells the metal levers in his listings. Seems pretty deceitful. His story of how they have to travel hundreds of miles to find these rare gems is hilarious. Just hope nobody falls for his BS.


Posted By: cobalt327
Date Posted: December-31-2019 at 10:15pm
This thieving douche ebay seller still has me blocked from messaging him. All I did was politely ask for a photo and to state if he bought them from Daisy or from the Daisy Museum. 


Posted By: zipper28
Date Posted: December-31-2019 at 10:38pm
I asked for some pictures of the number on the gun and he replied that it was in a warehouse in Idaho. But rest assured his feedback from similar sales should calm any doubts. Trouble is 4 of them were bought by the same person who also bought one of these rare guns from another seller. Sounds kinda fishy.


Posted By: cobalt327
Date Posted: December-31-2019 at 10:48pm
It does seem odd. Hey- maybe the buyer is trying to corner the market. Once he has a monopoly, he cashes in!Wacko Geek


Posted By: Dannop2
Date Posted: January-01-2020 at 1:17pm
Wow , I had no idea that the $24.95 one's I bought right before Christmas were so valuable , I would let them go for $1000.00 each plus shipping and handling , taxes , sweat equity charge and I will throw in some free sailboat fuel as well and if you need a special lot number or serial numbers let me know and I can scratch ...er mean find an " engraved " one in my stack , man PT Barnum is rolling in his plot LOL .   

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Realshooter


Posted By: MarvMar
Date Posted: January-02-2020 at 4:49pm
DARN !!!!!
I'VE BEEN BLOCKED !!!!!
Tried sending him a nice letter explaining how I knew of a store here in NW Ohio (didn't mention that it was wal-mart) that had a stack of 40-50 or more for sale at $24.95. 
Maybe he's a member here and will read this. (LMAO !!!)
Marv



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Marv, NW OH


Posted By: Dannop2
Date Posted: January-02-2020 at 5:24pm
Greed has no bounds does it ? , I have reported it to eBay but like some have said they have the greed factor and the dumb factor so there  you go , we can only do what we can and hope most are keeping their eyes and all open and I know you tried Marv .

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Realshooter



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