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To get the oil where it needs to be, I use a length of K&S brass hobby tubing with a piece of silicone weed trimmer gas line on one end. That end goes over the end of the air tube and oil is put in through the tubing. I use my lungs to blow the oil through into the compression chamber. It helps to partially cock the lever, just enough to separate the plunger seal from the barrel seal. You can use a small block of wood, etc. to prop the lever open while doing this. Alternate between leaning the gun barrel up and barrel down so the oil sits on both seals.
 
There's nothing wrong with putting the oil down the shroud with the shot tube removed- as long as the air tube isn't a tight fit to the barrel seal ID. But the lever still should be slightly opened to let the oil into the space between the two seals. If you don't crack the lever, the oil will just sit against the back side of the barrel seal and a small amount will find its way to the plunger seal- so unless you are re-oiling a previously oil soaked seal, this way can take a long time to fully saturate the leather.
 
You will know you're getting there when you can hear the oil suction sound as you work the lever (no need to fully cock it but if you happen to, just dry fire it). After all this oil it will take quite a bit of shooting before the gun settles down, so be patient.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Bryan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August-10-2018 at 5:10pm
Ohhhh I didn't think it actually had to go into the air tube itself. I've only been putting in down the barrel with the shot tube removed. I'd half cock the lever a little to try and get some oil to the plunger seal but that obviously isn't working. So maybe the plunger seal is still relatively dry? Ok I'll have to find a piece of tubing and give that a try before I take it all apart again. That's really great advice. I'll give that a shot for sure if I can get my hands on tubing
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You need a piece of flexible tubing that is a snug fit when pushed over a 5/64" drill bit shank- that's the OD of the air tube. After you put the flexible tubing onto the piece of brass tube, cut it off short enough that it can be pushed onto the air tube without it flexing too much, else this can turn into an exercise in frustration. On mine I have the flex tube cut 1/4" from the end of the brass tube. Put the flex tube on the brass tube either dry or use adhesive so it doesn't slip up the tubing when you push it onto the air tube. Helps to oil the air tube end of the flex tubing, just not the brass end. This will help it go on easier.
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Ok I was able to get some tubing and got it on and put some oil down the tube with the lever half cocked with a piece of wood holding it. Hopefully letting it sit a day or so will allow the plunger seal to soak in some oil now. Fingers crossed that this will be the trick. I really appreciate all your help
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You can swap ends standing up after awhile so both seals get the benefit of the oil. I've got fingers crossed, too!
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