'Scope'/shroud you don't see every day

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   I thought it would be fun to reach out to the museum regarding this, and this is the reply I received. I'm copying their reply here with permission, and thank you Daisy Museum Staff!  I'll try later to post the picture they sent. 
In the early 1970 a series of wood guns were made and among them was the 846. 
The shroud itself is off of a model 846 toy gun made in the early 1970s.  The scope is a #301  toy gun scope with no glass for magnification - but it should have an eyepiece.
I've attached a catalog page scan from a 1974 catalog.  Take a look at the model 846 Training rifle (toy gun).  That is the shroud that is shown with the scope attached in Daisy Talk / on ebay.  There was not a production shroud made with a scope mount.
There are two options regarding how this piece came to exist - and they are really the same.  It's possible that a shroud was pulled before it was painted and the scope mount  was spot welded to it by a Daisy employee as a speculative new product idea.  No doubt it was rejected either due to cost or because it would have required larger packaging and therefore more retail space. This gun was never produced with the scope/mount.
It's also possible that any other individual might have created the piece for the same reasons. 
We hope this information is helpful.  The Daisy Museum

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BurghDude Members Profile Find Members Posts Red Ryder Member Joined: January-26-2016 Location: Pittsburgh PA Points: 400	Post Options Post Reply Quote BurghDude Thanks(1) Quote Reply Posted: May-08-2018 at 12:18pm
	I thought it would be fun to reach out to the museum regarding this, and this is the reply I received. I'm copying their reply here with permission, and thank you Daisy Museum Staff! I'll try later to post the picture they sent. In the early 1970 a series of wood guns were made and among them was the 846. The shroud itself is off of a model 846 toy gun made in the early 1970s. The scope is a #301 toy gun scope with no glass for magnification - but it should have an eyepiece. I've attached a catalog page scan from a 1974 catalog. Take a look at the model 846 Training rifle (toy gun). That is the shroud that is shown with the scope attached in Daisy Talk / on ebay. There was not a production shroud made with a scope mount. There are two options regarding how this piece came to exist - and they are really the same. It's possible that a shroud was pulled before it was painted and the scope mount was spot welded to it by a Daisy employee as a speculative new product idea. No doubt it was rejected either due to cost or because it would have required larger packaging and therefore more retail space. This gun was never produced with the scope/mount. It's also possible that any other individual might have created the piece for the same reasons. We hope this information is helpful. The Daisy Museum

cobalt327 Members Profile Find Members Posts Red Ryder Member Joined: November-15-2013 Points: 2999	Post Options Post Reply Quote cobalt327 Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: May-08-2018 at 6:17pm
	Too cool. A true skunkwerks type deal here, unique to the hilt.

Bavaria55n Members Profile Find Members Posts Red Ryder Member Joined: October-12-2015 Location: CentralIllinois Points: 747	Post Options Post Reply Quote Bavaria55n Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: May-09-2018 at 12:14pm
	Thanks for the information. A unique piece indeed. Gary

BurghDude Members Profile Find Members Posts Red Ryder Member Joined: January-26-2016 Location: Pittsburgh PA Points: 400	Post Options Post Reply Quote BurghDude Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: May-10-2018 at 7:52am
	I finally got the picture they provided loaded. The gun in question is the lower left one. I couldn't find any other pictures of that one anywhere!

Airitis Members Profile Find Members Posts Red Ryder Member Joined: October-06-2016 Location: PA Points: 1156	Post Options Post Reply Quote Airitis Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: May-10-2018 at 5:24pm
	Veering off the subject a little, I have the scabbard for the 1968 Trail Scout on the upper right photo. No belt/strap. just the scabbard. Until now I didn't know what it was for. Thanks for posting the pix.
	Air-It-Is

cobalt327 Members Profile Find Members Posts Red Ryder Member Joined: November-15-2013 Points: 2999	Post Options Post Reply Quote cobalt327 Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: July-01-2019 at 1:34pm
	~~Just happened to notice the photo above from the Daisy Museum that BurghDude was able to acquire has gone missing~~ Now it's back. Did happen to see this on auction today- lever action version of the one from the museum's ad:

BSAGuy Members Profile Find Members Posts Red Ryder Member Joined: January-30-2019 Location: Central NC Points: 518	Post Options Post Reply Quote BSAGuy Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: July-01-2019 at 9:32pm
	Wow. Very cool, Cobalt. Thanks for the new info on this thread.
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Rick Cates Members Profile Find Members Posts Red Ryder Member Joined: January-06-2013 Location: Canyon, TX Points: 239	Post Options Post Reply Quote Rick Cates Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: August-07-2019 at 4:38pm
	I ran across a very small little bb rifle I had never seen before and had to buy it. It had a small version of the scope which is actually a peep type sight using the front blade. It is marked model 104 register no J113100 and is 29 inches overall. It is so small I could not believe it was a bb shooter and not a play pop model. Made in Rogers and has slotted screws. I usually only buy Plymouth made Daisy's, however this was so small and cute I just had to buy it and the fact that I had never seen this little one before I could not pass it up. Anyone know more about this model? I would like to know more. Rick in Canyon TX
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cobalt327 Members Profile Find Members Posts Red Ryder Member Joined: November-15-2013 Points: 2999	Post Options Post Reply Quote cobalt327 Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: August-07-2019 at 6:05pm
	Haha- does this bring back memories! The Daisy 104 is the very gun that set me on the path to modifying and consequently learning about Daisy airguns in general. I still have it and shoot it almost daily but it's a far, FAR cry from where it was when I found it at a yard sale for $2 in 1982! It has a Reg. No. of J322228 with slotted screws, made in Rogers and was made to have a detachable tube sight mounted to it. Some of these guns actually came with a notch rear sight that was also removable from the receiver and because of this ability to be removed, these sights (both types) are often missing- as mine was. If you have one of the rear sights, it's probably worth as much if not more than the gun itself! That said, even though they're rarely seen that doesn't necessarily translate into these guns being particularly valuable. Quite a few of the 104s were painted gold. Mine was painted Daisy dark blue but its finish was so far gone that I stripped it and repainted it satin black. It now has a lengthened barrel shroud so I could use a Daisy model 25 shot tube, a custom spring (shoots over 350 fps), adjustable rear sight, custom buttstock, et cetera. But enough about my gun- if you can, please post a photo or two of yours!

Rick Cates Members Profile Find Members Posts Red Ryder Member Joined: January-06-2013 Location: Canyon, TX Points: 239	Post Options Post Reply Quote Rick Cates Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: August-07-2019 at 9:28pm
	Thanks for the info. Mine looks to be a black color and most of the paint is still there. No rust. We are out on a racing trip right now and I only have an iPad and I do not know how to post pictures.anyway. I will try to get some photos taken and see what I can do when we get back home and I have some time. It is in nice shape and all there with the scope. It was something I had not seen before and just to cute to pass up. Thanks again, Rick in TX
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