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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote teerex.otw Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August-19-2023 at 6:57pm
Mark,
That’s interesting. I’ve never seen one like the upper lever in the photo. Is that the first gen. high-pivot ?
Sort of resembles the low pivot profile, neat bit of Daisy history (but easy to see why they changed it).
Thanks for showing it !
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Bryno Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August-19-2023 at 7:06pm
Thanks for the education Mark. So that means one year earlier and my 94 Red Rider would have had that lever. Oh well still my favorite gun. Have to ask would that have meant it had leather seals...that's about the time for the change right.
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I have seen it said that there were leather seal 94 Red Ryders, but I have yet to come across one. And as time goes by, I tend to believe they all used rubber seals. I base this on a 94 Red Ryder that I own- it's a very early 94 having Register No. 715033 with no oil hole and it has rubber seals. This gun was stamped on June 15, 1954- the 2nd month of production. Note that it's so early that it uses the first Register No. system that lacks a letter prefix- same as how the 111-40 Register No.s were formatted when the Reg. No. system was in its infancy. Add to that the fact that the last 111-40s to be made had rubber seals.

But either way, I believe the change to the levers came in 1955.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Bryno Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August-21-2023 at 7:30am
So there you go I had heard the same thing about the early early 94 examples.
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Mark,
Do you know if they used the sleeved compression chamber throughout the entire 94 production ?
btw, mine has reg. no. D628156
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Bryno Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August-21-2023 at 6:20pm
Good question...B941782 March of 1956 here
..Can confirm sleeved and four tack welds...
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Originally posted by teerex.otw teerex.otw wrote:

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Mark,
Do you know if they used the sleeved compression chamber throughout the entire 94 production ?
btw, mine has reg. no. D628156
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It would have been made sometime in 1958, I believe. That puts it very close to when the Red Ryder stopped and the Western Carbine began. FWIW, the final version 94 was made in Plymouth and then in Rogers with the only change being the stamping saying where it was made.

To your question, I'm just not sure if it was still sleeved.
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Mark,
Thanks for all the info.
Fwiw, this one must be an early Western Carbine, it’s rollstamped Rogers with model 94, but not Red Ryder, and the stock is plain, fake hammer type, like my 111 (H524247), no bull’s head logo.
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Mark, Does that curved aluminum lever with the notches fit on any thing other than the 1938...NOT 1938B ?
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It fits all the "high pivot" guns, including the No. 1938 Red Ryder and the model 1938B Red Ryder. The photo is from an old ebay listing.

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