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    Posted: February-21-2015 at 6:35pm
The b-3's I had were garden variety .177. They shot at about 650 fps after a lube tune. I bought a few .22 under lever rifles as well. They could do 550 fps. 850 fps in .22 is way hot for a cheap Chinese springer unless you are shooting ultra light pellets or have done some kind of modding. The Chinese can and do make far better guns but you pay for them and it isn't under $150. You can still pick up a basic B-3 from a wholesale seller for less than $30. That's where I got mine. Amazon sellers just mark them up. 
I highly recommend the QB-57. Lots of fun for less than $70.
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...the fuse...
Was your Chinese B-3 the one that "LASTWORLD" calls the "Defender Extreme  B-3" ?
22 cal, 850 ft/sec ???
I bought one off Amazon seveal years ago for less than $50...I agree, it's built like a tank, and weighs about that much !!!
 
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QB 78 is the only Chinese gun I have left, it was so nice to be able to re-seal the thing or repair it, without any special tools, voodoo magic, or send it t a "guru" for $100. Simple design copied from a Crossman 160. Parts and upgrades are cheap also, probably keep it for a long time, it's really accurate as well. I have some vintage Crossman's on my list (400 repeater, 160, 140 and maybe a 101).
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It's funny. My first introduction to this great hobby was Chinese springers like the B-3 and other repops of German guns. They are wood and steel. Heavy as a tank.  The cult following is partly because they are so simple that you can modify them in lots of ways. Mine are nearly all gone now. Found I don't care for springers. The lone exception is a QB 57 I've grown to love. $65 gets you alot of gun, with that one.
Now I'm all about vintage American airguns. 
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I think the big thing about the imports is if there is a quality control arm from stateside , my 25 is very tight and fit and finish is great ( still would rather pay a bit more and get it with the old USA on it ) and I like my Beeman P17 a lot too and it is more accurate than it has reason to be , the problem with the import situation is that we changed many of the tax laws in the 80's as the idea was that we would be service and other countries would do the manufacturing , the laws are such that you could have the same costs at domestic or import and the holding companies would come out way better even with the high cost of shipping , I worked with many large manufactures through the years and it's baffling how and why we did this to ourselves , change it 180% and you would see a big change in or GPA nationwide , but anyway this is a fun forum not a social and economic summit and sorry for the rant .
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I had a Chinese 25 for a couple of years, it worked great and was good quality for the price, never a problem after thousands of shots. Chinese air guns actually have a cult following nowdays, a distributor imports Co2 rifles based on old Crossmans, the quality is excellent, they are a simple design to work on, and shoot great. Nothing beats the old Plymouth guns, but the Chinese are getting a lot better at air guns, some are even badged "proudly made in Shanghi". I always buy US manufactured guns when possible, or old vintage ones. To look at my Chinese rifle if you did not read the marking, it's all wood and blued metal construction, with almost zero plastic, you almost would think it is vintage US made.
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I have seen and shot the D 25 made in China. My nephew has one. He loves it. Knowing the 25 of old, I don't feel so positive about it. I do have a few Daisy's that were made in Japan. The original M14 is one of them and shoots great. Not sure how the Chinese M14's are. Sure wish it wasn't less expensive to build a something and ship it half round the world. It's wrong on a lot of levels.
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I am a Lifetime Member of the Daisy Museum #40, however, I have not and will not purchase any of the guns now being made in China. I do not feel Daisy should be producing guns made outside the USA. 

I will continue to support the museum in other ways, but I will not add those new guns to my collection. I just feel too strong about this, and I know this is only my opinion, some will not agree with me, but that is just the way I feel. 

I believe most people would be willing to pay a little more for the guns if they were made in the USA, I know I would. Now having said that, I do have a few of the guns, Roy Rogers, and a few of the early guns produced by Daisy, however my collection of about 100 guns are mostly Plymouth and Rogers guns. 


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I haven't bought a China model #25 and won't buy one but I did buy a China model 1894, push button safety. Wish I hadn't.
Soon after receiving it in the mail the rear sight fell off. I sent it back to Daisy Arkansas and they quickly sent it back fixed.
Then something else happened and it would shoot but my Daisy Gun Smith friend fixed it.
Now the gun sometimes doesn't cock, when it does cock two B-Bs come out. My Daisy gunsmith friend has it again.
What a nice-looking piece of junk!
Don't buy a China model 1894.
I've shot it less then 50 times altogether.   
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I hope the "Kudos" are passed on to the Daisy Customer Service Management. I know I have contacted them in the past and their help/service was outstanding. I make it a point to send a follow-up email or letter acknowledging the positive experience with any organization. 
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