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    Posted: October-21-2012 at 11:41pm
hey oldsarge, any updates on the magazine?
 
I picked up model 2202 about a month ago and it had no magazine. I was thinking about using a Ruger mag and stumbled upon your post. Looks like everything is working fine for you right? How is it once its shot?
 
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Got my dummy rounds.  Excellent.  Look just like the real thing, except for a tiny hole in the center of the bottom.  Feed great from the Daisy magazxines, just as long as you work the bolt kind of fast, work it slow and failure to feed every time.  Put some speed on it, and feeds every time, no prob.

The wrong bolt turned out to be a 2201 bolt.  They are not exactly the same as the 2202 bolts.  I've got the Eagle magaxzine 'almost' working.  It doesn't feed in all the way, lacks maybe 1/8", maybe less.  But I am sure it can be made to work.  Problem now is, work with which bolt?  If I make it to work with the 2202 bolt, I'm not sure it will work with the 2201 bolt.  I want to keep the 2202 bolt in the 2212, along with the Daisy magazine, because I think I can get rid of it easier that way.  But on the other hand, I would like to get the Eagle to work with that bolt.  Ah well, I guess I'll just go ahead and work on getting it working with the 2202 bolt, and include it with the 2213 if I can't get it working with the 2201 bolt also.  The 2201 bolt is now in the 2202 with the missing buttplate, undecided if I'll keep that one or not.  The Eagle magazines can be gotten for about $10 each, so I could modify several for it.  Problem is, modifying it is not turning into the cut and dry job I thought it would be, not bad, just more minor details than I'd ever figured on. 

I'm still working on it, never fear, but got other priorities that jumped ahead of it, so work on it has slowed.  Somehow lost the master for my chess set rook, so will need to make another, want to make some for toys for tots; got the rest of the masters, and working on a jig for painting a chess board in two easy steps.  Still need to make a master base for the chess pieces also, and that will also be used for checkers.  And canes, I need at least one spare cane, so designing a few different models, and will have a try at selling some also.  Got a couple of other projects going on also.  Bleah.  Bah.  Humbig.
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Very interesting.  Found out why the Daisy magazine is not going into my 2212 all the way.  The bolt is/was not correct.   It suddenly struck me to compare bolts, and the ones the magazine work in are different profiles on the bottom.  Swapped the bolt from one of the 2202s, popped it in the 2212, and the magazxine fit right in.  Glad I didn't go ape with the belt sander on the magazine.  So, now the Eagle will be going in the 2202, the one with the damaged buttplate.  Going to try to swap the good one, complete with rear sight, off.

Tried a couple of alternatives on feeding with the Eagle magazine, but then decided I'd just go ahead and buy some dummy rounds.   Should have them sometime in t he beginning of next week.  Forgot, and had to add the address of where I ordered the dummy rounds.  Also have some .22 magnums coming.  Prices very reasonable.  http://www.rimfiresports.com/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=RSC&Product_Code=22LR%20DUMMIES
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Bleah.  Got in the shop yesterday, and hit the Eagle magzine with the little belt sander; should have tried it for fit more, and hit it less.  Tongue  It does fit.  Not really as tight as I would prefer, seems to rock, but should be acceptable.  I THINK it will feed rounds OK.  THINK it will, because I have some plastic dummy .22 rounds I used to check.  Well, the stupid dummy rounds are apparently just for revolvers, because they are shorter than a long rifle round, and pointy.  Don't feed worth a tinker's damn, and load almost as poorly.  I don't feel comfortable trying live rounds thru it, just in case - HUGE believer in 'just in case'.  No safe direction to point the gun, just in case.  So, need accurate sized dummy rounds.  I don't know how to make .22 dummy rounds, and can't find anyting on-line about doing it.  So, looks like I will have to order some.  I've had those plastic rounds for a little while now, but only glanced at them when I got them, then put them away, large mistake. 
 
OK, looks like a light at the end of the tunnel, and in this case it's daylight, and not a Troll with a flashlight.  May have a viable solution to the lack of magazine problem, but is going to take a bit of time to get dummy rounds to see for sure.   That 2212 looks pretty cool with that Eagle magazine stuck in it.  I would take a picture, but my camera batteries are low, again, so they're recharging - picture later.
 
Now to decide if I will take the belt sander to that Daisy magazine, so it will fit the 2212, or not.  Still not sure why it won't fit. 
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Here are the three manuals, for those that don't have them.
AND the manual for the lesser known Daisy Model 8.  Bet a buncha you didn't know about this one.
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What is strange is they only will not go into the one gun.  The other two take the magazines fine.  Can't figure that one out.
I believe it says in the Daisy manual, remove the magazine by pushing it out from above.  I know I read it somewhere. 
 
Tried the Eagle magazine earlier today.  It has a 'slide' on the back that I believe is to push it out of a Ruger.  Noticed it was touching the trigger guards, so think 'that's what's keeping it from going in further'.  So filed it.  And it still wouldn't go further.  Going to try to get into the shop later and use the little belt sander.
 
No parts for sale.  I will be getting rid of at least two of the magazine rifles, but they're complete guns.  I'm thinking I'll probably get rid of all three, and just keep the single-shot.  But, if I do keep one, it will be the one with the Eagle magazine, because after this, if I get it working it should be no major problem to modifiy more for it. 
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I just tried one that was original with the gun and it worked fine. Getting it out always needed a push from the top. But when I tried a new spare it was tight the last 1/4 inch going in and alot harder to get out. Seems they need some break in to smooth out.
    Congrats on the progress so far with the mag. Glad to hear about it.
   dwsonye31 is looking for parts if you are going to sell anything.
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Didn't get out in the shop today, so didn't use my belt/disc sander on the Eagle magazine, just sanded by hand with sanding sticks.  Getting there, slow but sure, just hope all the effort pays off in the end.
 
Tried my two Daisy magazines in the 2212.  'Neither' fit.  Both fit nicely in the 2202 with the missing butt plate tho, and I'm taking it for granted it means they will both also fit in the 'good' 2202.  I had been thinking of keeping the 2202 with the missing butt plate for myself, with the Eagle.  That is, if I keep one at all.  The 2211 I am definitely keeping, I have a thing for single shot .22s.  But, as is, the Eagle magazine will have to be used in the 2212, which is OK, because I like wood stocks, so if I keep any of the magazine fed rifles it will be that one; but if I can't get it to work in it, it'll get sold or traded, minus magazine. 
 
Anyone here have any experience with a Daisy rotary magazine not fitting?  The only thing I can figure is that there is something sticking out, out of place, or jamming up, the magazines; but, so far I haven't been able to find it.  Any thoughts?
 
 
 
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Interesting.  Got my FCG put together, piece of cake - with the pictures I had.  BUT, it will not fit in my 2212.  I always have a bit of trouble putting them in, with with fiddling with the bolt and all, but this simply would not fit.  The detante pin would NOT come up to hold it in.  Tried it on one of my 2202s.  Same thing, no fit.  Finally tried it in my 2211, and finally, it fit.  So took the FCG from that in put it in my 2212, and that one fit there.  Strange.
 
I've been using the Daisy magazine from the 2202 I put the detante pin in to check the measurements on the Eagle magazine I am working on.  Tried to put the Daisy magazine in the 2212.  Won't go in all the way, lacks about 1/8" of going all the way.  Strange.  So, tomorrow I'll probably try the magazine from the other 2202, the one with the goofed up butt plate,  in the 2212 and see how that one fits.  I hope it does, because I really don't want to have to work on a Daisy magazine to try to get it to fit.  If I can get it to work, my plan is to use the Eagle magazine in the 2202 with the butt plate missing. 
 
I've been working pretty steadily on the Eagle Magazine.  Some filing, a lot of sanding.  Front to back dimensions should be good.  The sides, at the top, should be good; but lower still have a fair amount to take off.  Tried it in the magzine well, went in about 1/4", and hung up.  Sanded, same.  Did that several times, then noticed the Daisy had rounded edges.  So, rounded the Eagle edges.  Ah, got it in about half way, no prob.  But the bottom still needs slimming.  Thinking about trying my little bench belt/disc sander on it, that sanding by hand is getting old.  I'd try some pictures, but there is really nothing to see.  More later.
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Small upgrade.  Got my FCG parts, and two missing.  They were supposed to be mailed out this last Monday, and once I get them I'll put them together and see how things go.  No safety. 
 
Started on modifying the Eagle magazine.  Been taking pictures, for a build thread if this actually works.  Camera will not take an in focus picture.  Tried again today and got what looks like some better pictures, except now the camera and computer are not talking, so the pictures are not downloading.  Bah, humbug.  So any eventual build thread may be severly lacking in pictures.  So, far it still seems like the Eagle magazine will fit in, after some work, then it just remains to see if it works.  I'll keep you all advised.
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