'Scope'/shroud you don't see every day

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   Veering off the subject a little, I have the scabbard for the 1968 Trail Scout on the upper right photo.  No belt/strap. just the scabbard.  Until now I didn't know what it was for.  Thanks for posting the pix.

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Airitis Members Profile Find Members Posts Red Ryder Member Joined: October-06-2016 Location: PA Points: 134	Post Options Post Reply Quote Airitis Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: 'Scope'/shroud you don't see every day Posted: May-10-2018 at 5:24pm
	Veering off the subject a little, I have the scabbard for the 1968 Trail Scout on the upper right photo. No belt/strap. just the scabbard. Until now I didn't know what it was for. Thanks for posting the pix.
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BurghDude Members Profile Find Members Posts Red Ryder Member Joined: January-26-2016 Location: Pittsburgh PA Points: 184	Post Options Post Reply Quote BurghDude Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: May-10-2018 at 7:52am
	I finally got the picture they provided loaded. The gun in question is the lower left one. I couldn't find any other pictures of that one anywhere!

Bavaria55n Members Profile Find Members Posts Red Ryder Member Joined: October-12-2015 Location: CentralIllinois Points: 427	Post Options Post Reply Quote Bavaria55n Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: May-09-2018 at 12:14pm
	Thanks for the information. A unique piece indeed. Gary

cobalt327 Members Profile Find Members Posts Red Ryder Member Joined: November-15-2013 Points: 625	Post Options Post Reply Quote cobalt327 Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: May-08-2018 at 6:17pm
	Too cool. A true skunkwerks type deal here, unique to the hilt.

BurghDude Members Profile Find Members Posts Red Ryder Member Joined: January-26-2016 Location: Pittsburgh PA Points: 184	Post Options Post Reply Quote BurghDude Thanks(1) Quote Reply Posted: May-08-2018 at 12:18pm
	I thought it would be fun to reach out to the museum regarding this, and this is the reply I received. I'm copying their reply here with permission, and thank you Daisy Museum Staff! I'll try later to post the picture they sent. In the early 1970 a series of wood guns were made and among them was the 846. The shroud itself is off of a model 846 toy gun made in the early 1970s. The scope is a #301 toy gun scope with no glass for magnification - but it should have an eyepiece. I've attached a catalog page scan from a 1974 catalog. Take a look at the model 846 Training rifle (toy gun). That is the shroud that is shown with the scope attached in Daisy Talk / on ebay. There was not a production shroud made with a scope mount. There are two options regarding how this piece came to exist - and they are really the same. It's possible that a shroud was pulled before it was painted and the scope mount was spot welded to it by a Daisy employee as a speculative new product idea. No doubt it was rejected either due to cost or because it would have required larger packaging and therefore more retail space. This gun was never produced with the scope/mount. It's also possible that any other individual might have created the piece for the same reasons. We hope this information is helpful. The Daisy Museum

Bavaria55n Members Profile Find Members Posts Red Ryder Member Joined: October-12-2015 Location: CentralIllinois Points: 427	Post Options Post Reply Quote Bavaria55n Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: May-06-2018 at 8:52am
	Could be. But none of the 'peep sight scopes' used on the BB guns had any adjustment. Certainly a solidly made item compared to the plastic of today. Gary

Airitis Members Profile Find Members Posts Red Ryder Member Joined: October-06-2016 Location: PA Points: 134	Post Options Post Reply Quote Airitis Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: May-05-2018 at 12:53pm
	I may be way off here, but this looks like a toy. It doesn't seem to be solidly mountable. Looks like the front slides under an existing rear sight and only has one screw in the back. Also, it doesn't have adjustments for elevation nor windage. Can't tell if there are lenses. Maybe it was made for a popgun or as an "add-on".
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Bavaria55n Members Profile Find Members Posts Red Ryder Member Joined: October-12-2015 Location: CentralIllinois Points: 427	Post Options Post Reply Quote Bavaria55n Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: May-05-2018 at 8:33am
	Anything else turn up on what gun this was made for? Gary

Iceman Members Profile Find Members Posts Red Ryder Member Joined: February-09-2012 Location: Missouri Points: 198	Post Options Post Reply Quote Iceman Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: April-28-2018 at 9:04am
	I think he referenced the "trainer" that has the rubber bayonet. I do not have the trainer so I can't speak to that, however, I do have a rubber bayonet in pristine condition.

BurghDude Members Profile Find Members Posts Red Ryder Member Joined: January-26-2016 Location: Pittsburgh PA Points: 184	Post Options Post Reply Quote BurghDude Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: April-27-2018 at 8:47pm
	The only bayonet gun I'm aware of is the 40 Defender. This scope wouldn't work on that, there's no place for that tang screw to attach. Are you talking about a different one?